Mixed martial arts = legalized dog fighting

By Jason Andreasen

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Contrary to what that frat guy next to you says, “Ultimate Fighting” or “Mixed Martial Arts” is neither a sport nor anything but people beating the life out of one another.

Remember when everyone was up in arms about the Michael Vick fiasco? Remember how everyone rightfully pretended to vomit when they talked about dogs being driven to kill each other? Why don’t we have the same reaction when we watch two grown men pummel each other until one is so bloodied and dazed that he collapses?

The obvious answer is that the “fighters” choose to step into the ring and get their faces beaten in. While this is true, and is a credible distinction between dog fighting and mixed martial arts (MMA), the two are still very similar.

It is the primal urges that make us almost not human and drive the ratings for UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) pay-per-view specials through the roof. These same urges drive fans of dog fighting and cock fighting to trailer parks and professional football players’ houses. We want to see blood and fighters knocked unconscious by a roundhouse kick to the head, and we want to see someone standing over their bloodied body.

The fact of the matter is that the popularity of MMA is directly tied to the society that we live in on a day-to-day basis. You may have seen a primetime news special or two about “fight clubs” popping up all around the country with members being average guys who work at a desk all day long.

At night, they go into a buddy’s basement, recite some macho garbage about there being no rules and attack each other with sticks, swords and their bare knuckles.

This is in direct correlation to the fact that they have no way to let their aggression out or to let their natural testosterone levels be exercised. Instead, they end up in a “fight club” one night and parked in front of a UFC fight the next.

As for the growing popularity of MMA, now the “worldwide leader in sports” has gotten in on the act. Let’s face it: When ESPN calls something a sport, America calls it a sport. The fact that ESPN has been covering MMA events, even a little, gives them credibility in the sports world.

Instead of having a serious discussion about why this is barbaric and a sign of straight-up devolution, ESPN shows UFC commentator and comedian (yes, comedian) Joe Rogan yelling and carrying on about how graceful it is when Chuck Liddell (a popular UFC fighter) straddles another guy and relentlessly beats his face in. Seriously?

Of course, how could I rant and rave about how terrible MMA is without talking about boxing and even professional wrestling?

First of all, boxing is a completely different animal. Boxing is regulated by various entities like the Nevada State Athletic Commission; meanwhile, MMA organizations run from such regulation. Furthermore, greats like Muhammad Ali were graceful and cunning while Tito Ortiz, a popular UFC fighter, just tries to beat someone’s head in. There is no beauty, no poetry-in-motion.

As for professional wrestling, at least that is staged. The people who watch the WWE do it as much for the soap opera storylines as they do for the violence. It is scripted and choreographed. I would rather live in a culture that watches choreographed fighting rather than this barbaric and senseless human cock fighting.

The fact is that MMA, while it may contain different forms of martial arts, appears to be little more than an excuse to watch someone get the crap beaten out of them. You can try and tell me all about how I don’t understand the intricacies of the “sport,” but I know what I see.

What I see is a bunch of steroid-using guys beating each other up with little or no restriction. You call that a sport? I call it human blood-sport, and I think it is sad that it is the fastest growing “sport” in the world.

E-mail the author at JasonAndreasen@tigerweekly.com

Originally Published: September 26, 2007

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Comments

Wow. What an uninformed piece of crap. You are a fool.

cls | 2007-09-26 - 12:46:55 PM (CDT)
Oh dear, I’ve read enough of these stupid MMA-berating articles from idiots like you to last a life time. It’s not the 1990’s any more. The press has been there done that, and people are bored of this recycled shock-tactic reporting.

MMA is a dynamic, skillful and competative sport no different than Olympic Judo, TaeKwondo, Wrestling and Boxing combined. Oh, wait a minute...that’s exactly what it is.

And to say the companies like UFC and EliteXC etc run fron regulation? For your information it’s regulated by the SAME bodies as boxing; you publicise lies and, to be honest, bullsh*t.

Stop being such a wimp and realise that the need and spirit for competition is what MAKES us human, not being an office drone who slobs on the couch in the evenings.

Laurence Leach | 2007-09-26 - 12:59:53 PM (CDT)
don’t you think that this fighting is the sort of brutalized bullshit of the romans-- gladiators anyone?
let’s take a bunch of drugs and beat each other to near death
fuck that
i don’t care that you have a big penis and want to flail it around
this shit is for the women that love to watch bar fights, but don’t want the blood from that fight to be splattered all over the rhinestone blouse.

it’s basically a jean-claude van damme film being a sport
good job jason--- i completely agree with you

roger williams | 2007-09-26 - 01:13:29 PM (CDT)
Who ever wrote this knows nothing about mma and is a loser. MMA is a beautiful sport and you are just a nobody talking trash that you cant’ back up. And by the way UFC is regulated by the Nevada State Athletic commision.

Carn | 2007-09-26 - 01:15:29 PM (CDT)
Idiot. You claim that all of these OPINIONS you state are fact, when they couldn’t be anything but. the CSAC and the NSAC do all the drug testing, and regulate the mandatory rules. THE EXACT SAME GOVERNING BODIES THAT REGULATE BOXING?!?!?

Although Im sure Im wasting my time trying to educate your ignorant ass, Ill do so anyway. How many deaths have been a result of Mixed Martial Arts world wide in its history? NONE. Let me reiterate for you... THERE HASNT BEEN A SINGLE MMA RELATED DEATH TO DATE. Your beloved boxing cant even come close to claiming the same.

As for saying that we only watch MMA to see KO’s and blood, thats another arbitrary statement. THATS YOUR OPINION. I can assure you, a huge majority of TRUE MMA fans love a technical ground war just as much if not more than someone getting KO’d. The technique and skill required to evade submissions or to apply them is as masterful an art as any combat sport can offer. Anyone with the knowledge to accurately evaluate a grappling match could express the same sentiments, that watching it truly is "poetry in motion" and something akin to a chess match.

As Im sure you’ve been made aware of, you’re a complete buffoon. You spew nothing but nonsense and lies. Get a life, stop spreading this horribly biased and completely untrue garbage.

Jason=Moron | 2007-09-26 - 01:43:25 PM (CDT)
The UFC, the largest of the MMA organizations, is regulated by the same commission as boxing (NSAC).

Additionally, the UFC does not stage fights in states where there is not a legal sanctioning body, hence the reason the UFC has not had a show in the state of Illinois.

There is plenty to criticize in any sporting organization, its a shame that you choose to use lies and half-truths in condemning the UFC.

Randy | 2007-09-26 - 01:43:53 PM (CDT)
Oh lord, here come all the angry white-trash rednecks.

Derpa | 2007-09-26 - 01:45:36 PM (CDT)
Ummm..UFC isn’t regulated? Try doing some research before you write. EVERY show in the United States is regulated by the state’s athletic commision. The overseas shows they brought member’s along to oversee things.

Also, did you just blame UFC for guys beating each other with sticks in their basements? How in the world do you make that connection?

Reckless? Barbaric? Blood filled? Ok, I challenge you and any other uninformed lemming to name ANY instance in the history of Mixed Martial Arts where someone suffered a life threatening injury. Can’t do it? Ok, how about an injury that required a hospital stay over a day. Still can’t do it? Yeah..exactly.

Now how many people have suffered fatal and career ending injuries in boxing. Bet you can find those. Or how about football..I’ve seen that ambulance on the field several times... Hockey..yup..seen people crippled there too. Your scripted Pro Wrestling you defend..yup...several in ring deaths and career ending injuries there too. You want brutal...how about a pitcher drilling the batter intentionally with an 80+ MPH pitch?

You want to talk steroids? Well guess what. It’s in every sport. However at least MMA they test every single fighter every single fight. No random BS like other sports. Also, everyone who has been caught gets a fine and a hefty suspension usually a minimum of one year while they decide to weather or not to ever let him compete again. Not like other sports where they let the guy go on to break home run records.

Oh yeah, your comedian Joe Rogan, commentates for and defends MMA because he’s a Brazilian Ju-Jitsu Brown belt and a former Tae Kwon Do champ on a local level. He’s not just some clown they grabbed off the street. Another fact you could have found with a 19.95 internet subscription and 5 seconds of your time. Guess that’s too much for responsible journalism.

Seriously, can any fool be a journalist now? You make bold claims with no facts or sources to back it up and to top it off your claims are outright lies that you could have researched in 10 seconds to avoid looking like a tool. You sure your not really the comedian instead of Rogan? Because this article is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen.

Adam | 2007-09-26 - 01:50:39 PM (CDT)
Wow you are really clueless. I mean try to do a tad bit of homework before you write this stuff. MMA is regulated by the same groups that regulate boxing, the state athletic commissions. There is a long list of rules and fouls, it is not no holds barred brawling. Its also filled with submission experts who do not do that much punching if they can help it. You really have no idea what you are writing about, the factual errors really make you look bad and make it hard to take you seriously.

Aaron | 2007-09-26 - 01:58:12 PM (CDT)
9 comments so far and the only uninformed comment is from a guy defending this article and calling MMA defenders "angry white-trash rednecks". Talk about irony.

Randy | 2007-09-26 - 02:04:55 PM (CDT)
Do you consider yourself a journalist? This is an editorial at best. The writer makes bold recycled claims with out a shred of evidence to back it up. The NSAC does in fact regulate the UFC and other MMA organizations, and as for your claim that MMA fighters are steroids users .. I would like to point out that MMA faces far greater restrictions then any of the major team sports. All fighters are tested after every fight and even the judges follow the same guidelines as boxing. When MMA was first introduced to the world, your article may have had a more relevance. However, with the introduction of weight classes, along with other rules, the UFC is a SAFE, entertaining sport! There has not been one major sport in the history of MMA. Name another sport that can make that claim! Where a boxer can be knocked down multiple times in a fight as long as the can stand up before a 10 count. MMA fights are only 3 rounds and a fight can be stopped if the fighter looks to be in trouble or can not intelligently defend themselves.

Further dismissing any credibility you may have, you go on to stat that professional wrestling is better for society then MMA. Really? Staged fights or not. These professionals perform dangerous stunts that involved chairs, slams on concrete and various other variables, which are more often mimicked by children because people like this writer, seem to think, that are kids can tell the difference. Oh and if you are going to attack MMA for steroid use, how hypocritical are you to defend Pro wrestling given the countless number of deaths and short careers that have occurred for years.
MMA is real. They dont hide from that. However, I fail to see how showing people the realities of combat is better then creating a fictional world where all the fighters have bodies that are unrealistic with out the help of steroids.

The point is you clearly are uninformed, not just on the specifics of the intricacies involved, but the basic facts. If you dont like it, fine, you have that right. However, in this article you have not only insulted the MMA world but their entire fan base by calling them trailer trash, frat boys or comparing them to the dog fighting world! You provide no evidence other then your obvious ignorance.

I have wasted far too much time on this worthless article, but if you think there is nothing graceful about a BJJ submission, you are crazy!

Kevin May | 2007-09-26 - 02:06:57 PM (CDT)
The authors opinion is as meaningless and uninspiring as most boxing matches taking place today. Keep clinging to heroes past while MMA easily swallows your beloved sport of boxing, which if you actually new your facts has been proven more dangerous. It should be pointed out that it is not MMA fans who have been on the offensive against boxing. In fact, most MMA fans also love boxing. However, when delusional boxing fans such as the author insist upon taking a position as ignorant and ill informed as this article, it forces MMA fans to strike back. Boxing is a slowly dying sport, and will soon be as relevant and popular as Soccer in the United States (which sadly will also likely exceed boxings popularity in the near future). So, to the author, I hope you have plenty of Boxing’s greatest fights on DVD because those days are long gone. Now we are left with nothing more than a bunch of 12 round jab fests where both guys are looking to take their money and run. Not to mention the rampant corruption and numerous organizations that have been flooding/delluting the sport for years.

Scott | 2007-09-26 - 02:07:38 PM (CDT)
Derpa - in response to your "Here come all the angry white-trash rednecks" racist statement...

When people who you can’t see defend rap on the internet, do you call them "black-trash thugs" or any other racial slur?

How is it ok to call someone you can’t even see a racial slur? Is it because you have prejudices? Must be. You should check yourself before jumping to such conclusions and stop being such a bigot.

Kevin | 2007-09-26 - 02:11:23 PM (CDT)
"The fact is that MMA, while it may contain different forms of martial arts, appears to be little more than an excuse to watch someone get the crap beaten out of them. You can try and tell me all about how I dont understand the intricacies of the sport, but I know what I see."

Actually, you don’t have the slightest clue.

Care to debate this? Fair warning: you’ll get pummeled worse than anyone in the Octagon ever took a beating.

Let me know if you’re interested in being humiliated. I have no problems taking requests.

Best,

Luke Thomas
Senior Writer, MMAMadness.com
Host, Whoopass Radio (MMA.tv)
Host, Any Given Saturday
Color Commentator (Mixed Martial Arts Championship, www.mmacdc.com)

Luke | 2007-09-26 - 02:12:31 PM (CDT)
Jason- I have good news and bad news for your...

The good news is your article attacking the fastest growing sport in the world succeeded in getting you the attention you so desperately yearn for. On the flip side, that same article does nothing but show that you are an ignorant hack, pretending to be a journalist.

You really need to put down the pen, and rush back to class. However, if in the future, you find yourself unable to resist that urge to write on a particular topic, here’s a tip; maybe you should actually research the subject. I know it involves "reading" but at least you wont come across like such an uneducated ass.

Good luck on that journalism career, I’m sure the professional ranks are itching for you to join the team, you’re just what they go for; an ignorant, hyperbolic, attention-craving, blow-hard.

Andrew | 2007-09-26 - 02:15:45 PM (CDT)
It’s a shame the author allows his ignorance and bias to cloud his view of reality. Attempting to associate Mixed Martial Arts with dogfighting also shows how clueless and desperate the author is to prove some abstract and mis-informed point. Whatever you motivations for this piece of "journalism," I think you are severely mis-guided. Hopefully your are not as mindless and oblivious in every aspect of your life as your were in writing this article

Fedor | 2007-09-26 - 02:19:16 PM (CDT)
Jason, your article is utter uninformed nonsense. Next time, at least do a bit of research before you embarrass yourself.

Old_Fogey | 2007-09-26 - 02:22:09 PM (CDT)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET HIM TAKE LUKE UP ON THE OFFER, I THINK THEY WRITE THIS CRAP JUST SO THEY CAN GET SOMEONE TO READ SOMETHING THEYVE WRITTEN..ALSO. PRIDEIS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE THE LITTLE BROTHER, NOT THE BIG BROTHER

DUGAS | 2007-09-26 - 02:23:44 PM (CDT)
Your opinions on this subject might would hold more water if you actually researched the subject you wrote about. Your views and opinions are all lost in the sea of falsifications.

Ryan | 2007-09-26 - 02:24:09 PM (CDT)
i’m amazed at how many people think they can write an article reguarding mixed martial arts when they are so extremely uninformed about the subject and have a personal biased against it.

jv | 2007-09-26 - 02:24:37 PM (CDT)
How ironic that you would write this piece condeming MMA as barbaric, on the heels of yet another boxer’s death this past weekend. Boxer Jackson Bussell was one of several Boxers that die every year as a result of their fights. MMA has yet to cause a single death or serious injury in it’s history here in the US. I realize this article is likely a cry out for attention and nothing more, but try to have a little journalistic integrity (although one would be hard pressed to classify this as "journalism") and do some research in the future.

Josh | 2007-09-26 - 02:27:39 PM (CDT)
MMA = a safer and more skillful combat art than boxing

it is also NSAC and CSAC regulated. How the author could get this published with such a glaring error tells me something about the quality of this "Tigerweekly" publication.

LOL

Jayson | 2007-09-26 - 02:28:15 PM (CDT)
Wow, just wow. You havent researched this piece at all, not even a visit to Wikipedia. You just jotted down some things you overheard about UFC and mustered up some indignation to meet a deadline, didnt you?

Heres some facts about MMA. Hopefully, youll learn a lesson about responsible journalism that your university obviously cant provide.

1. UFC is regulated by the same state athletic commissions as boxing. Because of stringent rules, UFC has a lower injury rate than boxing. It has had 0 deaths, unlike boxing.

2. You didnt come up with the term "human cock-fighting", youre parroting a 10 year old line spoken by a politician who now supports MMA. Somehow, youve managed to fall further behind the times than a middle-aged Republican.

3. Jiu jitsu, boxing, kick boxing and wrestling are all sports. Why isnt MMA, a combination of those, a sport?

4. Nobody is "beating the life out of each other" or getting their "faces beaten in". There are strict rules in place to prevent damage to a fighter, and a match is stopped by referee as soon as the fight becomes one-sided or a fighter is hurt. The worst injury in the entire history of sanctioned UFC has been a broken arm. Compare that with NFL and boxing.

5. Primal urges have little to do with the popularity of MMA. MMA is the most direct, undiluted, exciting form of individual competition. Winning decisively or in an exciting manner does not require participants to get hurt. For example, jiu jitsu submission victories leave fighters no more injured than a brisk run, yet they earn standing ovations from the audience.

6. Your meek jabs at "frat guys" and "steroid-using [fighters]" reveal a simple fact: youre a frustrated potato-shaped loser, envious of physiques and lifestyles you cannot achieve.

7. Your attempt at tying the popularity of MMA to the state of our society is lame and uninspired. Youre a college student, yet you think like a suburban mother of four, terrified of the effects of media and liberalism and anything else you cant put in the back of your SUV. I suggest you grow a pair and start thinking for yourself. Learning a thing or two before going on a rant would be beneficial as well.

In the end, what you think doesnt matter. Combat sports are too violent to be everyones cup of tea, but that is also the case with boxing, NFL, and hockey.

The most damage youll do with this article will be to influence uninformed readers who take your words at face value. The next time Im watching UFC in a sports bar, Ill have to explain to them why no one is "relentlessly getting their face beaten in". I guess theyll have to go back to watching boxing.

AlexK signfedor@gmail.com | 2007-09-26 - 02:33:06 PM (CDT)
Wow, just wow. You haven’t researched this piece at all, not even a visit to Wikipedia. You just jotted down some things you overheard about UFC and mustered up some indignation to meet a deadline, didn’t you?

Here’s some facts about MMA. Hopefully, you’ll learn a lesson about responsible journalism that your university obviously can’t provide.

1. UFC is regulated by the same state athletic commissions as boxing. Because of stringent rules, UFC has a lower injury rate than boxing. It has had 0 deaths, unlike boxing.

2. You didn’t come up with the term "human cock-fighting", you’re parroting a 10 year old line by a politician who now supports MMA. Somehow, you’ve managed to fall further behind the times than a middle-aged Republican.

3. Jiu jitsu, boxing, kick boxing and wrestling are all sports. Why isn’t MMA, a combination of those, a sport?

4. Nobody is "beating the life out of each other" or getting their "faces beaten in". There are strict rules in place to prevent damage to a fighter, and a match is stopped by referee as soon as the fight becomes one-sided or a fighter is hurt. The worst injury in the entire history of sanctioned UFC has been a broken arm.

5. Primal urges have little to do with the popularity of MMA. MMA is the most direct, undiluted, exciting form of individual competition. Winning decisively or in an exciting manner does not require participants to get hurt. For example, jiu jitsu submission victories leave fighters no more injured than a brisk run and earn standing ovations from the audience.

6. Your meek jabs at "frat guys" and "steroid-using [fighters]" reveal a simple fact: you’re a frustrated potato-shaped loser, envious of physiques and lifestyles you cannot achieve.

7. Your attempt at tying the popularity of MMA to the state of our society is lame and uninspired. You’re a college student, yet you think like a suburban mother of four, terrified of the effects of media and liberalism and anything else you can’t put in the back of your SUV. I suggest you grow a pair and start thinking for yourself. Learning a thing or two before going on a rant would be beneficial as well.

In the end, what you think doesn’t matter. Combat sports are too violent to be everyone’s cup of tea, but that is also the case with boxing, NFL, and hockey.

The most damage you’ll do with this article will be to influence uninformed readers who take your words at face value. The next time I’m watching UFC in a sports bar, I’ll have to explain to them why no one is "relentlessly getting their face beaten in". I guess they’ll have to go back to watching boxing.

AlexK signfedor@gmail.com | 2007-09-26 - 02:34:42 PM (CDT)
How you got a job as a writer is beyond me. You’re uniformed on every aspect of MMA.
I think one of your stupidest points was that you complain about people "beating each other’s face in" in MMA and yet you say boxing is poetic? You know what boxing is? Two guys beating each other’s faces in.
I bet you probably think when the fight goes to the ground it is "gay looking" or "gay, they should stand them up." You want poetry? pay attention to the jiu jitsu aspect of MMA. The sweeps, reversals, submission attempts and escapes, positioning. Go watch Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Bob Sapp.

Another equally stupid point you make is that the UFC isn’t regulated. I guess you missed the parts of the broadcast which say "This event is sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission". By the way, those are the same folk that sanction boxing matches in Nevada.

And for anyone wondering, I’m no white trash redneck. In fact I’m not even white.

Ricky | 2007-09-26 - 02:37:14 PM (CDT)
I could say a lot of things that have already been said, but what’s the point? Instead, I think I will sit back and laugh at this pretender journalist. How amusing!

Mike Copeland | 2007-09-26 - 02:37:51 PM (CDT)
You are ghey

berra | 2007-09-26 - 02:43:32 PM (CDT)
1: MMA is regulated by the Nevada State Athletic Commission you failure. I guess you would have known that if you knew what you were talking about even in the slightest, but I guess now everyone knows not to take anything you have to say even remotely seriously. Thank you for making my job easier.

2: Boxing great Muhammad Ali got hospitalised by professional wrestler Anonio Inoki in what is considered to be the first high proflie organised MMA fight. I guess boxing great Muhammad Ali was a human cock (as you put it) himself. And a pretty poor one at that.

3: Punching somebody in the head is the same physical cause and has the same physical effect as punching somebody in the head whilst they are standing. Physics motherfucker; have you studied it?

4: I challenge you to find a retired MMA competitor who is braindamaged to the point where he has difficulty speaking. There is none. There are plenty of Boxers with such brain damage (such as boxing great and human cock, Muhammad Ali). This is due to the steady stream of blunt force trauma Boxers recieve over long periods of time (12 three minute rounds), which doesnt occur in MMA due to the fact that a large percentage of fights are comprised of grappling and wrestling. MMA is far, far safer. Nobody has ever died or recieved serious injury in MMA either, unlike boxing.

5: Comedian Joe Rogan is also taekwondo black belt Joe Rogan and taekwondo instructer Joe Rogan, as well as accomplished Brazillian Jiu Jitsu practitioner Joe Rogan.

6: You are a Westerner, an American no less; shut up, you have no place speaking on things such as barbarism or honour.

Nakamura | 2007-09-26 - 02:46:06 PM (CDT)
Didn’t a young boxer just die last week, the day after he collapsed in the ring in the 6th round. That is just one of many deaths a year in the "graceful" sport of boxing.

Now, how many deaths have you heard about in MMA?

Also, you reference Ali... look what years of boxing has done to him!!!

Please note: boxing is my second favorite sport, so I am not bashing.

Fin Diesel | 2007-09-26 - 02:49:17 PM (CDT)
Wow. As a journalist myself, let me give you a big pointer......DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TYPE.

dre | 2007-09-26 - 02:49:17 PM (CDT)
Ok guys, I’ve already ripped into this article because lets face facts it is ridiculous. However, let’s not get drawn down to this tool’s level by stating generalizations as facts. Muhammad Ali has Parkinson’s disease. There is no proof that boxing was the cause. This is just one of those assumptions that pundits make to bash boxing. Just like they try to say that MMA is 3 times as dangerous as boxing, with out any sort of comparison. Anyway, if I’m wrong on this I apoligize but I have never seen any proof that boxing causes parkinsons. Oh and this article is garbage.

Kevin May | 2007-09-26 - 02:53:50 PM (CDT)
MMA> Jason Andreasen, Editor(s) of Tiger Weekly, this horrendous article

BFG6800Ultra | 2007-09-26 - 03:35:48 PM (CDT)
Jeez, I didn’t realize so many morons supported MMA.

not white trash | 2007-09-26 - 03:36:54 PM (CDT)
Ok I have a beautiful Dog who honestly is too handsome to fight and nor would I ever have one of my dogs fight. But what were some of these dogs breed to do? Fight. We have dog-herding shows; weight-pulling shows and we have coonhounds hunting coons till there up in trees. How do we know if a, "pit bull" can do what it was breed to do. Have it fight against a stuffed teddy bear sounds dumb Hun. I would be the first in line to say that dog fighting is cruel. And there would be many other people in line to say that boxing is cruel. With the technology we have now is it not possible to make mouth protection for dog so when they fight they do not cause punctures. Set up rule that if one dog has the other down for say 3 seconds like wrestling that the dog has lost. Make it so that these dogs that are licensed fighters follow the strict rules set forth in many states and provinces. Legalize make it a sport were they can test there dog fighting skills. We are humans and very smart we put men on the moon. You mean we can create something to protect dogs from hurting themselves when they engage in a fight. Make it safe. If not we will lose a beautiful breed of dog that are very loyal companions. Yes there are ones that are only good for fighting but there are many, many more that are beautiful pets. Just think about it.

Jay Thomas | 2007-09-26 - 03:39:22 PM (CDT)
I’m still waiting for the author to answer on any of the comments.

cls | 2007-09-26 - 03:41:18 PM (CDT)
I’m pretty sure the author has more class than you half-wits

Not white trash | 2007-09-26 - 03:42:54 PM (CDT)
BTW: I’m black

BFG6800Ultra | 2007-09-26 - 03:45:21 PM (CDT)
lol

not white trash | 2007-09-26 - 03:46:59 PM (CDT)
Wow... just wow. Jason, did you do ANY research before writing this article? Take this as constructive criticism, but I highly suggest, for your own reputation’s sake, that you take down this article, do a little research, rewrite it, and try backing up your opinions with some solid, cited facts. I respect your right to have an opinion, but the way in which you’ve delivered it just makes you look uneducated and foolish. Contact the NSAC, mention my name, and talk to them. You claim we run from their regulation, but they, themselves, will not only correct you on that point, but will educate you on our safety (among the best, per capita, in professional contact sports), class, and sportsmanship.
Do your career a favor, Jason. Do your homework.

Dana White | 2007-09-26 - 03:58:45 PM (CDT)
40th comment!

roger williams | 2007-09-26 - 04:12:19 PM (CDT)
Horrible article, uninformed writer, and if I can make a recommendation, learn something about the topic you choose to bash before you write about it (The UFC does not run from the NSAC). Also, prove points using statistics that are the majority, not the minority (Tito Ortiz is known as a bad boy but is no different than Zab Judah in your on going boxing comparison, if you want to compare apples to apples, Randy Couture is a comparable champion to Ali)

As for comparing MMA to Dog Fighting, this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. Dogs used in dog fighting are mistreated, forced to do so through means of torture and violence, and sometimes killed once used. MMA involves humans who are able to make decisions on their own, are not being forced to do anything against their will and have not only a team, but a referee as well ready to stop the fight if a fighter cannot defend themselves appropriately.

Filth | 2007-09-26 - 04:13:05 PM (CDT)
Jay Thomas, The biggest problem with your suggestion, is simple. When these dogs are no longer able to fight they can not be trained, to be pets or anything else. This is why they are quickly put to death. The same can be said about show dogs. This is why the whole idea of dog fighting is horrible. It is unreasonable to assume that dogs will only be violent when wearing this gear. These cowards use these animals for their own amusement then toss them out like trash when they are done with them. All in all this has absolutely nothing to do with MMA. Oh and to the "not white trash" guy, who thinks the author has class. Well, is it classy to stereotype an entire community? Is it classy to use gory, sensationalized rhetoric for the purpose of slander? Is it classy, to pass off this drivel as journalism, when in reality it is nothing more then one of the many ignorant people who believe what ever they want to believe and feel that the rest of the world should follow suit. I will say it again, if you are not a fan or have moral objections to combat sports, then do NOT watch them. However, telling me not to watch them with out any facts or points as to why, is just plain disrespectful.

Kevin May | 2007-09-26 - 04:14:55 PM (CDT)
I love how the 2 or 3 people on the article writer’s side, have NOTHING for a comeback other than "Oh lord, here come all the angry white-trash rednecks."
Jason, you’re doing about as well as the majority or journalists, keep up the good work, the masses are asses and will listen to you. Those of us who think for ourselves however, take what you have to say with a grain of salt and a small chuckle. I applaud you for what you’ve done, you’ve pissed off a lot of people, and you’re sitting back sippin’ starbucks laughing your ass off at the reaction you get from some people.....
Atleast I hope that’s what you’re doing. If you were actually serious about what you said.........I really hope you’re not serious. Can’t be. Someone with enough intelligence to get a writing job can’t seriously beleive that article is true. Then again I have heard a lot of people I thought were intelligent mention god.....

bah | 2007-09-26 - 04:46:13 PM (CDT)
I hate reading ridiculous and highly uneducated things like this about MMA by so called journalist. You should not be considered a journalist by any means nor will you ever be taken seriously if you write crap like this with out doing any research what so ever. Idiots like you see one MMA event and think youre experts, when in fact you know absolutely nothing. You said that MMA runs away from governing bodies such as NSAC, but that is not true at all. Professional MMA fights are regulated and the NSAC are the ones that came up with the rules that are in place for the UFC. And you mention steroids. Every sport unfortunately has steroid users, and just like any other professional sport if youre caught in MMA you are punished. These guys are real athletes competing in a real sport. These guys have to master many different fighting styles, many of them Olympic sports to become elite fighters. You have no idea what these guys go through. I train and Ive been a fan for several years so I at least have an idea of how hard these guys have to work. There have been people trying to make this sport main stream and get on ESPN and recognized for years, and idiots like you who do no research keep coming along and writing crap like this. As some one who really understand and loves the sport of MMA I absolutely can not stand it when some one trashes it and tries to say it is so dangerous when several people have already pointed out how many boxers die every year and that no one has died in the US in MMA. I like boxing, but I believe MMA fighters are more skilled, and that MMA is a more entertaining sport.

Travis | 2007-09-26 - 04:58:24 PM (CDT)
WAR SHERDOG?!?!

LAZ | 2007-09-26 - 05:07:23 PM (CDT)
How’d this guy get a job!? I can sit at the internet and type up a bunch of BS and call journalism. So, how do I get paid for that? Anyone?

The Crippler | 2007-09-26 - 05:21:20 PM (CDT)
Is it 1991? My watch must be broken.

Forrest | 2007-09-26 - 05:22:43 PM (CDT)
cumon peeple hes right! You trash are stupid and you dont even know what real sporstmansip is! boxiers have to train all day every day and these cage fighters drunk beer and get tatoos and think they are hard. Man bull! A half desent boxer could put any cage fighter fool away in the first round! Only wemon fight on the ground biting and pulling hair thats gay lol it looks like cagefighters like to hump each other dude real men slug it out toe to toe!
Tyson was the greatest of all time he would KILL a cagefighter!

Roy G. | 2007-09-26 - 05:30:15 PM (CDT)
there has actually been one death in an mma match, over in ukraine in 97’ i think. but as i recall he had an existing brain disorder that prevented him from fighting in the states where IT IS sanctioned(which shows your journalistic integrity)

crazyjames1233 | 2007-09-26 - 05:31:36 PM (CDT)
Forget the content of the article for a second? Jason Andreasens writing is painful to read? Is this his first article ever? Could he use rhetorical questions more? Are rhetorical questions the signature of a hack writer? Should he quit now and pursue another career?

RhetoricalMuch? | 2007-09-26 - 05:33:33 PM (CDT)
The one death was douglas dedge, and no, that event wat neither sanctioned nor did Dedge fight with a doctor’s blessing. The US wouldn’t let him fight, as his doctor told him he was in no condition to fight. He flew to the Ukraine specifically to avoid a sanctioned body. Therefore, what he fought in was NOT the sport of MMA, but illegal, underground fights in another country. Comparing the two is comparing oranges and apples.

Bill Wallace | 2007-09-26 - 05:36:37 PM (CDT)
One more thing...how many deaths have there been in SANCTIONED boxing? How many deaths in football? Including HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL!? Multiple per year!!!
Now, which sports are barbaric?

Bill Wallace | 2007-09-26 - 05:39:30 PM (CDT)
These comments are about as mature as Joe Rogan.

7yy | 2007-09-26 - 05:40:37 PM (CDT)
I really dont understand how a "journalist" can be so misinformed and biased. For one thing, UFC is regulated by The Nevada State Athletic Commission, the very same athletic commission you mention in the article!

Nathan | 2007-09-26 - 05:45:28 PM (CDT)
LOL. This is great! I love coming on here and reading all the comments from you halfwit white-trash keyboard warriors who think you’re "ultimate fighters". If your sport is so great, then why is it still illegal in most states? If your champions are so much better than boxers, why don’t they compete in boxing where the real money is? If it’s so safe, then why did the greeks and romans die in such matches? If it’s so classy, then why all the hip-hop music, tattoos, and female exploitation? Huh?
Oh, and for your information, I don’t know of ANYONE dying in a boxing ring in the last hundred years, and I only know of ONE DEATH in highschool or pro football EVER. If you can prove me wrong, do it... because you can’t.

Jason Andreasen | 2007-09-26 - 05:52:36 PM (CDT)
I think this says it all...

"Boxing is regulated by various entities like the Nevada State Athletic Commission; meanwhile, MMA organizations run from such regulation. "

The fact that the UFC does not hold US events in states that will not sanction MMA is a fact. It is also a fact that you are clearly speaking about a subject you are completely unneducated in.

Funnier still is that MMA fans don;t go out of their way to be dissrespectfull to boxing. In fact many of us are amateur boxers ourselves or life-long boxing fans. Yet for some reason Boxing Columnists are all racing to discredit and defame a growing combat sport like MMA... Interesting...

Brian Akers - CA | 2007-09-26 - 05:52:40 PM (CDT)
Oh, and someone give me the NSAC phone number so I can call and put the rumors to rest.

Jason Andreasen | 2007-09-26 - 05:54:35 PM (CDT)
Hey Roy G, Go back to school and learn how to spell you mongoloid, people might take you seriously.

bah | 2007-09-26 - 05:54:38 PM (CDT)
I wont even bother smashing your pathetic attempts to belittle MMA. You should learn how to research topics, instead of just writing nonsense off the top of your degenerative little head.

Ty | 2007-09-26 - 05:55:07 PM (CDT)
Yeah, I saw a UFC once where this guy in a blue costume froze this other guy and kicked him, and he shattered. MMA is barbaric.

flibbity gibbit | 2007-09-26 - 05:58:42 PM (CDT)
So MMA fighters dont train they just go out and fight...LOL omg, some of the people on here...and in response to the boxing comment, "Lil Nog" an MMA fighter I believe recently got a medal at the Pan-Am games in boxing, so there goes your whole they dont train arguement.

Thoughtsone | 2007-09-26 - 05:59:32 PM (CDT)
Jason, wow, your comment.....wow. I gave you the benefit of the doubt in my first comment. No more of that nonsense. You’re not writing this for a chuckle. You actually beleive the garbage you wrote don’t you?
Let’s quote you here;
"I dont know of ANYONE dying in a boxing ring in the last hundred years"
Do you seriously think anyone beleives that? I’m sorry but it’s not possible to know enough about boxing to form an opinion and not know that. I am pretty sure your usual readers are mongoloids like yourself, but this article got out to people with intellect. As I said, you obviously don’t really know anything about boxing either, so, stay away from combat sports, stick to your Nancy Drew books, and keep yourself hidden under the rock you reside under.

bah | 2007-09-26 - 06:03:07 PM (CDT)
Everybody knows ultimate fighting aint real anyway. They throw each other through tables for gods sake. You think that would be legal anywhere in the us? Your crazy. Boxing is the closest thing to a real street fight.

Tom West | 2007-09-26 - 06:05:26 PM (CDT)
Jason says "halfwit white-trash keyboard warriors"
Good job on the name-calling you pathetic fucking retard. Is that the best you can do?

meh | 2007-09-26 - 06:06:06 PM (CDT)
Let me begin by publicly challenging you to a debate. My name is Chad Bingham, you can reach me at Cbingham@trendsetinc.com
I dare you to try to stand by this horrible, misinformed, load of BS.

I just want to hit on a few points.

1. You say that MMA "runs from regulation" If you open your eyes and look at that picture of Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture that you put along with this article, both fighters have NSAC written right below their gloves on their wrist wraps. do you know what NSAC stands for? NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMISSION. They are sanctioned and regulated in many states.

2. MMA is a combination of Boxing, wrestling, Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, and many other combat sports. Boxing, Wrestling and Judo are all OLYMPIC SPORTS. How do you make any case that MMA is not a sport. The athletes that compete in MMA have dedicated their lives to their given art, and it is completely disrespectful for you, a non athlete paper pushing asshole to attack their accomplishments. Many of MMAs competitors also compete in the Olympics......like Matt Lindland (silver medalist) Dan Henderson, Kazushi Sakuraba, Rouland Gardner (GOLD MEDALIST) and many more. You should be ashamed.

3. You mentioned steroids......as a matter of fact the NSAC and CSAC drug test the fighters after their fights, if you test positive then you are fined and suspended, and if you are a champion your title is stripped (Josh Barnett is an example if you want proof.) which is more than you can say about most professional sports.

4. Lets talk safety since you repeatedly commented on how brutal MMa is, and how they beat each other senseless.
YOU CANNOT FIND ANY SERIOUS INJURIES RELATED TO MMA! I DARE YOU TO FIND ONE. The worst that has ever happened are a few broken bones, no deaths, no brain damage, nothing. Look at you "great" Muhamid Ali today, the man is brain dead, because boxers get punched over and over again until their brains just cant take it anymore, they get a standing 8 count after being KOed! are you kidding me!?!?! that is SO dangerous! In MMA if you go down, thats it, fight is over! or if you take one too many punches, thats it! fight is over.....Many boxers have DIED IN THE RING! No MMA fighters have even been seriously injured you retard. Look at how many former football players are now paralyzed. Better yet look up the NFLs latest law suits. Many former players are suing the NFL because they are physically and mentally handicapped because of football and the NFL cant pay for it.

Grow up, before you write about something RESAERCH it!

There is plenty more where that came from, so PLEASE take me up on my challenge! PLEASE, I would love to embarass you publicly. Cbingham@trendsetinc.com email me! Lets do it, unless you are scared and just want to hide behind your computer. Dumbass

Chad Bingham | 2007-09-26 - 06:07:41 PM (CDT)
After reading this I would say a better topic to write about would be racial slurs against people who are only stating their opinion and get attacked. Unlike the author it is only their opinion and the supporters of him have nothing to say about His mis-representation of his opinion calling his article factual. All based on his own ignorance of something he obviously knows nothing about.
Another thing. Dog fighting: A dog is an animal who cannot speak and has no voice, how do we as people know what they really want. These professionals choose to perform such art. Barbaric? Maybe you think so but for every opinion you have there is someone out there who will completely disagree. If I said you were Barbaric, you would quickly state you were not. But by the statistics on this page of comments I would say that about
96% would agree with me.
Best advice I can give you would be:
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a Fool,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

Me | 2007-09-26 - 06:08:11 PM (CDT)
#22.....MMA = a safer and more skillful combat art than boxing

LOL are you serious? You do understand the less options you have to hit someone, the tougher the sport is? Hence boxing. Running right at a guy then rolling around in a headlock on the floor takes a little less skill than landing a Tyson uppercut I’d say.

Jason is obviously taking too many supplements

Reveille | 2007-09-26 - 06:09:06 PM (CDT)
1st off heres the NSAC contact info..call away
Nevada Athletic Commission
555 E. Washington Avenue, Ste 3200
Las Vegas, NV 89101
PHONE (702)486-2575

2. Heres the number of deaths in football just in 2002
http://espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0807/1592454.html

3. Heres a list of boxing deaths
http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_b_0700.htm

Theses tons!

so please research

Thoughtsone | 2007-09-26 - 06:10:24 PM (CDT)
author is a friggin moron , sad i wasted the time to read such garbage.
find a new hobby , if you can’t research a subject properly you have no business talking about it.
fight club was a friggin movie , has nothing to do with the sport at all.
name a professional fighter who doesn’t train.
you should try to mount and pummel a jiu jitsu black belt and see how much grace it takes.

m0nk3y | 2007-09-26 - 06:12:23 PM (CDT)
MMA is popular because it’s cheap to attend an event which is right in the wheelhouse of the demographic. Boxing which is a more strategic form of sport requires a more knowledgable fan to appreciate it, and also comes with a higher pricetag.

Just like harness racing compared to the Kentucky Derby

Mike Tyson | 2007-09-26 - 06:12:24 PM (CDT)
Oh and this "someone get me the NSAC number so I can put the rumors to rest" bull? You really are that pathetic. You can’t write an article with any sort of facts in it, you obviously don’t watch MMA so you found someone else’s MMA-bashing article and put a spin on it. And now that someone contradicts your lack of intelligence, you can’t even look up the information for yourself? You have to ask people to get you the information?
It all makes sense now. No wonder this article is filled with bullshit, poor ass can’t think for himself.

bah | 2007-09-26 - 06:13:10 PM (CDT)
All anti-MMA boxing fans, please feel free to come and voice your opinions in civilized debates, rather than on a weak feedback board.
come to www.sherdog.net
sign up
debate

sherdogger | 2007-09-26 - 06:13:24 PM (CDT)
btw...don’t be so sure everyone posting is who they say they are.

sherdogger | 2007-09-26 - 06:13:52 PM (CDT)
"LOL are you serious? You do understand the less options you have to hit someone, the tougher the sport is? Hence boxing. Running right at a guy then rolling around in a headlock on the floor takes a little less skill than landing a Tyson uppercut Id say."

Well lets see could Tyson defend a take down, more options and more defense = more skill.

Its much easier to be good at boxing then good at all the following: wrestling, muay thai, boxing, bjj, karate and even judo

Also boxing is a great sport, not to take anything away from it. But MMA is a much more technically advanced sport then boxing imo.

Thoughtsone | 2007-09-26 - 06:14:39 PM (CDT)
1) u realise tito ortiz’s day passed long ago right? and he hasn’t finished anyone not named ken shamrock in 2+ years.

2) Nevada, Texas, California, Maine, Michigan, Alabama, Florida, and in fact every state except New York allows MMA WITH saunctioning

3) learn about the sport b4 u bad mouth, safer than boxing, done both, boxing gave me headaches and broken fingers, mma broken nose and a broken ankle, wow big difference

Oh and my worst injuries come from team sports by far, so u gonna talk about their danger too?

4) u can sweep a guy who’s ’stradling’ u and get top position u dont have to lie there

Mike | 2007-09-26 - 06:16:19 PM (CDT)
You have no education on the SPORT you are talking about. This is a combination of every martial art worldwide, something Bruce Lee actually started himself via cross training. Boxing has had a multitude of deaths over the years with 0 in the sanctioned world of MMA. This is the new future sport of the world, and if you don’t like it, then the only thing you can really do is turn the power button on your television remote to "off".

gary | 2007-09-26 - 06:17:37 PM (CDT)
Hey, it’s me. I prefer MMA, mainly because the fighters are real. They’re passionate, and they fight from a love of competition. Boxing is terribly corrupt, and most boxers just fight for the money. I have spoken. /thread

God | 2007-09-26 - 06:19:08 PM (CDT)
Jason,
While you have the right to your opinion, this article is one of the most uninformed pieces I have ever seen.
First of all, your catch-all defense of "You can try and tell me all about how I dont understand the intricacies of the sport, but I know what I see" is a petty attempt to preclude any criticism that you know you are sure to get. The fact is, you knew what you were getting into when you started. Its fairly (read: extremely) clear that you not only do not understand the intricacies of the sport, but that you also did not do any backround research into the sport either.
The most glaring factual mistake in the article is your claim that the UFC is not sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. This is entirely false. The NSAC sanctions all of the UFC events in Nevada, likewise the CSAC sanctions all of the events in California, and so on. How do you expect people to think that what you say is credible when you do not even have your facts straight?
Second of all, do you have any factual basis to your claim that MMA is directly corellated to "fight clubs" popping up all over the USA? Is it possible that your strong negative opinion might have clouded your judgment? One would have to think that many different factors would have an effect on these "fight clubs," such as people simply wanting to fight other people, viewing the movie "Fight Club," reading the book "Fight Club," or any of the above. You sound no better than the mainstream press glaring down on rock music or video games for teen violence while overlooking personal factors such as parenting, environment, drug use, etc.
Third, how can you side with boxing over MMA? As many in the comments have pointed out, boxing accounts for more injuries in one year than have occurred in the duration of the UFC. Do yourself a favor and look some information up, it might help when you try to write articles that require more than an uninformed opinion.

Amounting MMA to human cock fighting a horrible analogy. Mixed martial artists have an immense amount of training that they bring to their bouts. There is no one forcing them to do anything. Most of their training is for protection of themselves, which is shown by the extremely low amount of injuries in the sport. There is nothing more graceful (even more so than Ali’s footwork) than the sight of two jiu-jitsu practitioners work for submissions on the ground. Human cock fighting would imply that the two athletes were forced into a battle to the death under inhumane conditions for the enjoyment of the crowd. In reality, MMA involves two highly-trained athletes competing for a win, of their own free will, at a multi-million dollar production staged at some of the premier casinos and arenas in the world (Mohegan Sun, Hard Rock Hotel, etc.). If you are a serious journalist and have an interest in gaining credibility both in journalism and with readers, I would suggest that you put much more effort into your research and conclusions. Your lack of anything but erronious information and bad analogies shows the caliber of journalist you currently are.
If you have any questions about anything MMA or journalism related, feel free to email me at karasm@cooley.edu.

Michael Karas | 2007-09-26 - 06:19:31 PM (CDT)
o another thing

i can’t fight mma because of injuries, i can apparently still box amateur or professional if i have the desire, so u were saying about regulation?

Mike | 2007-09-26 - 06:21:54 PM (CDT)
"not white trash" should stick to everquest and other computer games if he/ she is frightened by athletic competition no more violent than football. We have yet to see paralysis from MMA

the unsilent majority | 2007-09-26 - 06:22:01 PM (CDT)
THIS ISN’T WHERE I PARKED MY CAR!!

Lost | 2007-09-26 - 06:23:18 PM (CDT)
No, hey...it’s over here! Aisle E, not D!

Found | 2007-09-26 - 06:25:13 PM (CDT)
No wait, this one’s not mine!

Lost again | 2007-09-26 - 06:29:13 PM (CDT)
Oh, it’s the same color...I just thought...yeah, I see now

Found incorrect | 2007-09-26 - 06:31:34 PM (CDT)
Reveille, you have no idea what youre talking about either! You honestly think, by having less options, which means learning less, you have more skills? These guys have to learn so many offensive and defensive skills with wreslting, kickboxing, BJJ, Judo, est. You think Jiu Jitsu is easy obviously since you said rolling around in a head lock on the floor takes less skill. You have NO CLUE how technical Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is! Go box with some one that has some boxing knowledge and unless you have no fighting skills at all you should be able to land an upper cut. Then go roll BJJ with some one who knows that sport and see what happens. You wont be able to do any thing, but get tapped repeatedly.

Travis | 2007-09-26 - 06:37:17 PM (CDT)
Just wanted to clarify that after checking IPs and talking to the writer, the person who posted a comment under the name Jason Andreasen (comments 55 and 57) was not the author of this article. Additionally, this will be the only message I post on this article -- any further messages under my name or Jason’s name are not us. No TW staff member will be posting here. Keep the comments coming, everyone, and thanks for reading!

Stephen Phillips | 2007-09-26 - 06:38:51 PM (CDT)
Since when does trailer trash go to college and read?

BFG6800Ultra | 2007-09-26 - 06:40:35 PM (CDT)
Thanks for the comment Stephen. Are we going to get a follow up from Jason, however? His conclusions are based off of (IMO) outright ignorance and lack of research.

Ted Lin | 2007-09-26 - 06:40:41 PM (CDT)
So I guess if Im white trash you must be a N I G G E R....right Jason?

Johnny | 2007-09-26 - 06:40:51 PM (CDT)
Jason,

Please do research before you write and article. You obviously didn’t look into this sport whatsoever and seemed to have formed your opinion by watching the 60 Minutes special at most. Please do the world a favor and reconsider your career in journalism so that the internet will never be plagued by your idiotic 4 paragraph articles about subjects in which you are clearly ill informed.

Go fuck yourself,

An educated MMA fan

KC | 2007-09-26 - 06:43:51 PM (CDT)
You people do realize this column is in the opinion section, correct?

? | 2007-09-26 - 06:50:06 PM (CDT)
It doesn’t matter what section it is in, it is the author’s and editor’s duty to make sure they’re not publishing false information. I count at least 3 claims which are patently false.

This is an article written by a staff member in a college newspaper, not a personal blog. Journalists have obligations to their readers and themselves!

AlexK signfedor@gmail.com | 2007-09-26 - 06:55:00 PM (CDT)
#91

Yes, but Jason based his opinion and presented nothing but false information.

BFG6800Ultra | 2007-09-26 - 06:55:18 PM (CDT)
It may be in the opinion section, but he states things as fact without one iota of research. When he claimed the UFC is unsanctioned by the NSAC or any other sanctioning body, he lost what little credibility he had in the first place. Opinions have no value when stating things as fact without the tiniest shred of research. The author has no business being a writer here or anywhere else for that matter.

NeoPhoenix | 2007-09-26 - 06:57:09 PM (CDT)
Ok, I just noticed Jason Andreasen is NOT a contributing writer. So I do apoligize for insulting his jouralistic integrity. He isn’t a journalist at all.
Besides, opinion or not, this article has so may glaring errors and blatant lies that the editor should never have let it get out.
So my apoligies to Jason, his opinon is wrong and the article is still slander if you ask me, but it looks as the the blame should be placed on the editor that let this get out. I’m glad you are happy that people are taking an interest in your paper, however they do so for all the wrong reasons.
Thank you for clearing that up. I’ve spent far to much time on this.

Kevin May | 2007-09-26 - 07:02:05 PM (CDT)
To Stephen Phillips:

I see that you are editor-in-chief of the newspaper. How could you allow one of your staff to write such an obviously biased and hateful article, and not perform the least bit of fact-checking?

AlexK signfedor.com | 2007-09-26 - 07:04:08 PM (CDT)
#91 your opinion means nothing. its seems more like a lame attempt to draw hits to your lame site. say what you want, it doesn’t change the fact that each event is a sell out, also the +millions that buy the ppv’s.

do you realize that "sparring" takes place in every kind of martial arts? maybe you should be writing articles about that, the stuff that nobody see’s. if its safe in a dojo, why can’t it be safe in an octagon? ufc is essentially "sparring".

DayzeD | 2007-09-26 - 07:04:30 PM (CDT)
Jason,You are a PISSANT. And Poster "Not white trash" more than likely you are black trash :O)

brncoboostr | 2007-09-26 - 07:05:24 PM (CDT)
waa , a blogger dork hates mma. what a surprise. Oh yeah in Football people aren’t beating the hell out of each other are they. Was it just me or was someone just paralized in recent football game. Concussions, torn mcls, acls, broken bones, all accepted in football but mma hasn’t had one tragedy but its too brutal?? Then don’t watch it. Just watch LSU get smoked by USC IN THE BCS---- IF LSU CAN LAST....

cipher unknown | 2007-09-26 - 07:05:30 PM (CDT)
You just outed yourself as a colossal moron. Do some research before you write your next article. Dumbass.

Brandon | 2007-09-26 - 07:06:16 PM (CDT)
A very well written and informed article. Well done. Clearly, you did your research.

I have no problem with people that do not like or appreciate MMA. That’s fine, it’s not for you, whatever. Perhaps you should have actually done research and presented points of discussion instead of stating falsehoods in your effort to bash Mixed Martial Arts and the people that watch. Claiming that the UFC runs from regulation is absurd in every sense of the word. Unless you are one of the people who confuses UFC with "every mma show ever run ever", you are wrong. The UFC embraces regulation. They do not run events in non-commissioned states. They are sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the same commission you applaud for their regulation of Boxing. When they do run shows overseas, they have the oversight of Marc Ratner. Ratner left an executive position at that NSAC to work for the UFC. Anyone that knows anything about combat sport regulation knows that Ratner is one of the most respected men in the business.

As for your point relating to Boxing or Professional Wrestling, surely you are outraged by football as well? After all, there is a reason that the crowd roars after a big hit. After all, in 3 weeks of the NFL season and the 4 weeks of the NCAA season there have been at least 4 men taken off the field on stretchers. Kevin Everett was in a fight for his life as a result of his injuries. Xavier Mitchell of UT was taken off the field on a stretcher. He played the next game.

However, based on the number of responses filled with profanity, well thought out responses, or general wackiness, you clearly got the response you wanted. Sure, your article got people talking, but what did it really accomplish? Unless your answer is, "to make me look foolish", not much.

Bryan | 2007-09-26 - 07:09:59 PM (CDT)
This guys a joke people. He writes for a school news paper! Say’s it all.

MMA fan. | 2007-09-26 - 07:10:11 PM (CDT)
It’s true. MMA >Boxing

George Foreman | 2007-09-26 - 07:10:47 PM (CDT)
the author is very ignorant.

mma-extreme.com | 2007-09-26 - 07:13:10 PM (CDT)
Hey, this was a great piece. You only missed the boat by about 10 years. Glad to see you put a lot of thought and effort into it though.

Angry white-trash redneck #104 | 2007-09-26 - 07:14:20 PM (CDT)
This guy obviously has no idea what he’s talking about.

"Tito Ortiz, a popular UFC fighter, just tries to beat someones head in"

Everyone knows Tito can’t beat anyone’s head in. He just dry humps them to death

Rashad Evans | 2007-09-26 - 07:15:44 PM (CDT)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/psychochildx311/olsen.gif

Fag

Joe | 2007-09-26 - 07:20:31 PM (CDT)
MMA goes against God. You will all burn in hell!

-Fred W. Phelps, Sr.
Westboro Baptist Church

Fred W. Phelps, Sr. | 2007-09-26 - 07:20:34 PM (CDT)
Your ideas and distinctions of MMA is ridiculous, did you even watch an MMA fight before writing this article, did you know that there is alot more aspects involved like ju jit su, muay thai, wrestling, kickboxing, boxing, etc. Did you also know that there hasnt been a serious injury in MMA in over 10 years of the sport with the exception of a heart attack that was from natural causes. Boxers get hit over 100 times to the head in a fight, while a UFC or MMA fighter faces 20 - 30 and the fight is stopped right away after a Knock Out, unlike the disasters we have seen in some professional boxing outfits. The reason there is less punches is because the fight can go to the ground, unlike boxing where guys just stand and beat each others face in, get your facts straight and watch MMA before you judge it.

Chase | 2007-09-26 - 07:26:19 PM (CDT)
Stick with boxing. I know I should have.

Ray Mercer | 2007-09-26 - 07:27:08 PM (CDT)
FUCKING NOOB.....PRIDE!!!!!!

Christopher The Destructor | 2007-09-26 - 07:29:44 PM (CDT)
I sent this to a similar journailst who wrote something similar to what you wrote Mr. Andreasen. Please read and educate yourself:
Matt Eagan’s tirade against the sport of mixed martial arts articulated only his ignorance. Mr. Eagan first labels the sport by the misnomer "ultimate fighting" (Ultimate Fighting Championship is one of many mixed martial arts promotions. It is neither the first nor is it the most popular). He then goes on to assert that mixed martial arts athletes do not have mastery of any discipline. I wonder if Mr. Eagan would say this to Hidehiko Yoshida or Pawel Nastula, both Olympic Gold medal winning judokas and mixed martial arts athletes. Or perhaps he would say it to Rulon Gardner, winner of Gold in Sydney in Greco-Roman wrestling. Mr. Gardner made his mixed martial arts debut last year. He would also most likely find opposition in his opinion from three time NCAA freestyle wrestling champion and former UFC Champion Kevin Randleman and from Mark Hunt, a former kickboxing world champion. Both of these men now compete in mixed martial arts. Participating in mixed martial arts are also champion jiu jitsu players and skilled boxers and Thai boxers.

Despite the fact that these athletes attained complete mastery of their single discipline, none have been able to topple heavyweight mixed martial arts champion Fedor Emelianenko. This is because mixed martial arts is a discipline of its own that combines all other disciplines. It requires an array of skill sets so broad as to make other combat sports look quaint and simple in comparison. If you don’t believe me ask freestyle wrestling Olympic gold medalist Kevin Jackson. He was beaten by Frank Shamrock in under ten seconds.

The assertion that mixed martial arts is akin to a bar room brawl is perhaps the most insulting non sense that can be said about the sport. Would Mirko Filopovic, the number one contender who will be challenging Mr. Emelanenko this August, train over six hours every day for a bar room brawl? Of course not. His time would be more valuable spent serving the people of Croatia who elected him to Parliament. Perhaps if Mr. Eagan had the same desire and dedication to his profession that Mr. Filopovic has to his, he would have written a well researched article on mixed martial arts rather than the ignorant and slanderous one that was published in your newspaper.

Tom | 2007-09-26 - 07:30:19 PM (CDT)
It may be in the opinion section, but almost all of his claims are supposed facts. Pretty much everything that the writer wrote has already been deservedly bashed, but I thought Id also mention the fact that he pointed out one MMA badboy (Tito Ortiz) and mentioned Ali, as if theres only gentlemen in boxing and barbaric thugs in MMA.

Theres thugs in MMA. Theres thugs in boxing. I take it this guy has never seen a Randy Couture interview (current heavyweight champion of the world). I really want for Jason to post a follow up comment to see what he still thinks, and if he genuinely believes all this bullshit he wrote.

lolwhatajoke | 2007-09-26 - 07:34:03 PM (CDT)
oh another thing

in regards to safety, ur claim is boxing is safer? well i can box legal and in sanctioned even matches in many states, i chose not to because boxing is the cause of several chronic injuries. MMA on the other hand, which i have competed in at the amatuer and pro levels in canada and in the states. But i can no longer get a fight til my back, ankle and arm can heal to an appropriate level before it can happen. Note boxing doesnt prevent me.

Mike | 2007-09-26 - 07:35:13 PM (CDT)
Jason,
Wow, where to begin. You might understand MMA (mixed martial arts) more if you actually researched it a little. Let me start by injecting some actual facts to this pile of garbage you wrote. Mixed martial arts is regulated much like boxing, you could actually argue its better regulated as NO ONE HAS EVER DIED IN A SANCTIONED MMA EVENT IN NORTH AMERICA. Promoters havent run from sanctioning as you so ingorantly claim. Quite the opposite, in fact the UFC sought out regulation and thats what saved the sport. The mma athletes submit to random drug test and face much stricter penalties if they test positive than faced by athletes in all other major sports. 2 fighters just tested positive for steroids. Their punishment for a first offense? A one year suspension. Thats far and away a much more severe penalty then they would face in any other sport.

As far as fighters bashing each others heads in, that was just as stupid and unfounded as all your other claims. Mma fighters take far fewer shots to the head than boxers, thats why mma fighters are still articulate after they retire unlike many boxers. In fact if a fighter takes just a couple of unanswered punches the referee often steps in and stops the fight.

Fight clubs with swords and sticks? What the hell are you even talking about?

The comparasion between Tito and Ali is completely unfair. Tito isnt a cowardly draft dodger. As far as comparing mma fighters to boxers, lets play that game. Most mma fighters have college degrees. No mma fighter has been convicted of rape and biting an opponents ear off.

Nice attempt at journalism. Next time try a little research.

Wilson101 | 2007-09-26 - 07:43:31 PM (CDT)
What a fucking idiot, nice cheap shot at MMA. Why don’t you do some research, you’ll realize how big of chotch you are. Nice attempt at trying to stir up controversy for your pathetic excuse for an editorial career. Whoever hired you needs to reevaluate their application process. Hey, by the way, another boxer died the other day. Moron.

Drew | 2007-09-26 - 07:54:55 PM (CDT)
Stephen Phillips - I am sure you are appreciating the attention on this article... What you should sdo is skip the ones with profanity and read the educated articles. Then as an editor, you may have the chance to gain some respect and possible future readrers by at least addressing the claims that are proven to be false. Even if your opinion is still that the sport is too brutal for you, as an editor you should at least make a statement correcting the factual innacuracies of the claims made here. Good luck in your career...

Ted Copel | 2007-09-26 - 08:16:03 PM (CDT)
HEY! I am not shaking because of the boxing... I have Parkinsens... Unneducated MMA idiots...

PS - WAR RANDY COUTURE

Ali | 2007-09-26 - 08:16:55 PM (CDT)
i see that the roid ragers are on the loose, run for your lives!!!

t ortiz | 2007-09-26 - 08:21:18 PM (CDT)
After reading this, I could not help but think that it was written with the explicit purpose of getting under peoples skin. In this, the internet age, I just cannot believe a person could be so ill informed...

T | 2007-09-26 - 08:35:43 PM (CDT)
This is so true!

Rush Limbaugh | 2007-09-26 - 08:40:56 PM (CDT)
Wow, write about something you know about next time.

matt | 2007-09-26 - 09:09:38 PM (CDT)
I doubt Stephen will apologize just because a bunch of guys from a forum are mad at a local paper they’ve never read before until now. I know him, and he’s been working in journalism for a while, and he knows better than to make a big deal out of nothing.

I agree that this article is pretty bad, but come next week this will be long-forgotten, and you all will have retreated back to your respective corners of the Internet, and there will be a brand new topic of debate. Meanwhile, I’m sure everyone at the paper appreciates the new non-local web traffic.

Matt | 2007-09-26 - 09:10:56 PM (CDT)
Ignorant fool! Do a research before writing an article!

Angelo | 2007-09-26 - 09:19:15 PM (CDT)
i wrestled once, got my arm broken
this guy’s right on
i took steroids too, this league is exactly how he describes it

napoleonic | 2007-09-26 - 09:20:50 PM (CDT)
I know writing this I’m not going to get a response out of you, Stephen; however, a response is not what I’m after. As a professional mixed martial arts practitioner, I must say I couldn’t help but laughing while reading your article. Your title is eye-catching. The first step in writing a good article is to have a title that grabs the reader’s attention, and you have that.

But as I write this response to your article, I cannot help but wonder how and where I should start attacking your article. But let’s start with boxing being a different "animal," shall we? Boxing is a different sport than mixed martial arts, and please don’t ever forget that. The sweet science of boxing is gone, my friend. There are no more TRUE champions in the world of boxing. Groups like the UFC are taking over boxing because of:
A. A unified champion
B. Better marketing and larger appeal
C. Highly popular live events

Don’t get me wrong, I love boxing. I grew up hearing stories from my grandfather about guys like Jake LaMotta, Jack Dempsey, Floyd Patterson and Rocky Marciano. I idolized George Foreman growing up. As a matter of a fact, I still go to a boxing gym to work on my striking! But that’s just it.

Boxers go to one type of gym to prepare for a fight, a boxing gym. They may work on cardio, striking, defense or whatever, but it’s still in a boxing gym. When preparing for a fight, I have to make frequent visits to a boxing gym, a tae kwon do gym, a jiu-jitsu gym, an olympic caliber wrestling gym and a muay thai kickboxing gym. But I guess if MMA isn’t a sport, neither is muay thai kickboxing, or olympic wrestling. The reason guys like you do not like mixed martial arts is simple. It’s taking over your sport, it’s picking up some of your large corporate sponsors, and it’s selling more tickets to events than boxing. I’m sorry sir, but the numbers do not lie.

Signed,
Josh Moon

I can be found on Sherdog under my name if any person wishes to contact me. I am more than happy to provide information for the gyms I work out of, and my upcoming schedule. Thank you.

Josh Moon | 2007-09-26 - 09:51:52 PM (CDT)
You know, a totally biased and unfounded piece IS bad for the paper, "opinion" or not - the publisher should speak to the author about his borderline plagiarism of thought from bygone years - this article belongs in 1994 or so. There’s also the factual inaccuracies - MMA is actually a well regulated sport, it has a lower incidence of serious injury the boxing or America’s real sports killer, amateur football.

Controversial content aside, the piece is uninteresting and comes across as a fat, naive child sniping at ’the jocks’ from his dormroom terminal. If the author wanted to write a decent, informative piece about MMA he chould have at least traveled to an MMA gym and seen or tried the grueling training and level of contact first hand - that would have made for 10 times the article.

JohnnyC | 2007-09-26 - 10:38:52 PM (CDT)
Josh Moon, you must’ve taken too many smacks in the head. Stephen didn’t write this article. Stephen is the editor, and if you knew anything about journalism, you’d know that the editor is not a "fact checker." I just can’t believe that so many of you have taken the time to give a Baton Rouge, Louisiana paper so much publicity. You’ve basically proven the author’s point that UFC fans are a bunch of morons.

Reveille Writer | 2007-09-26 - 12:06:14 AM (CDT)
Reveille Writer, please cease the ad hominem garbage in post 128.

D | 2007-09-26 - 12:59:36 AM (CDT)
Its people like you that need to get beat up, you fucking democrat!

Dj trashy | 2007-09-26 - 01:37:31 AM (CDT)
First of all, if I were to write an opinion article on any subject, I would first make sure that I had all the facts. It seems to me that Mr. Andreasen is not aware of some very important facts regarding MMA. He states, "Boxing is regulated by various entities like the Nevada State Athletic Commission; meanwhile, MMA organizations run from such regulation." UFC, being the most renowned MMA organization, has stringent regulations and oversight. As a matter of fact, it is regulated by the very same Nevada State Athletic Commission that Mr. Andreasen is so quick to mention in reference to boxing. Participants are routinely given comprehensive physicals before they compete in any sanctioned fight; in addition, there are very strict rules and regulations regarding weight class and overall physical health. Also, if a fighter is injured during a competition, the match is stopped, and the injured person receives medical attention, rather than being executed, as a "weak" competitor would be in dogfighting.

To make a comparison between MMA and boxing is fair; both are combat sports. But to say that you see grace and beauty in one, but not in the other, is selective ignorance. In his article, Mr. Andreasen cited Muhammad Ali as having both "grace" and "cunning". Muhammad Alis fighting style was to be beaten for several rounds until his opponent wore himself down, then, with his opponent ready to drop from the effort, strike suddenly in a brutal flurry until he achieved a knockout. While I can see a certain amount of cunning, and quite a bit of fortitude, in such a strategy, Id love for Mr. Andreasen to explain to me what grace lies in it. While I can respect criticism of MMA from those that are opposed to all combat sports, including boxing, to cast MMA in a negative light while elevating boxing is to willfully ignore the long history of corruption, as well as the numerous in-ring fatalies that have occurred within boxing. UFC (and I can speak only of UFC, as I admit Im not as well-informed with lesser known MMA organizations), on the other hand, has never had a fighter die due to injuries sustained during competition.

As far as Mr. Andreasens allegations of UFC competitors being "a bunch of steroid-using guys", this shows an immense level of irresponsibility. I do not speak for the UFC, let alone any other MMA organization, but I assume that the athletic commissions that they work with have strict drug-testing and wellness programs. However, even if Im wrong about their drug policies, making a blanket judgement about all MMA fighters is reckless. Statements such as that should not be made unless they have some kind of proof, be it circumstantial or factual, to substantiate it.

In regards to his opinions of the legitimacy of MMA, its all a matter of perception. Where some may see two guys merely grabbing at each other on the ground, I see a chess match of physicality, a competition of strategy and countermoves involving positioning, torque, leverage, body control, composure, etc. Personally, Im more excited by a technically sound grapple than a knock-down, drag-out street fight, as Mr. Andreasen has assumed all MMA to be. As with anything else, its difficult to produce an accurate image of MMA if you paint with too broad a brush.

In closing, the personal bias of the author has come through in this poorly-informed, condescending piece. To enclose the word fighter in quotes when describing MMA competitors is to completely belittle the sacrifice and hard work that these men (and women) undergo. If MMA is so brutal and violent as to be equated to "human cock fighting", as Mr. Andreasen has done, why cant he, at the very least, allow them the title of fighter, sans disdain-dripping quotation marks? It seems that this would be just too much credit to give to these "barbaric and senseless" contenders, whom Mr. Andreasen has so pompously reigned judgement upon. These competitors are flesh-and-blood people, with families and lives outside of MMA, who have chosen to participate in this sport.

Oh, and by the way, Mr. Andreasen - Im not a "frat guy"; but, if you want to play the stereotype game, then I suggest that a "sensitive artist" such as yourself stick to the entertainment section, where your sensibilities wont be offended by such "devolution" as that of MMA and other combat sports.

All in all, this article is so full of elitism that I can smell San Francisco from here.

Tim and Sara Harrington | 2007-09-27 - 02:15:25 AM (CDT)
Troll writer.. I give it a .5 .. tried way to hard to sound uneducated.

D.A.N | 2007-09-27 - 05:20:28 AM (CDT)
Already sent a personal response to the now hated author so I wont bother touching on the content of the article...

BUT...from a stricht publishing standpoint...does any RESPECTABLE publication make they’re op-ed pieces FRONT PAGE news??? I’m baffled by this. If the goal of TigerWeekly is strictly to get attention...whatever the kind... then you have succeeded.

I could be wrong about this, but, the image of the paper’s current front page shows this absurd article in the top left corner.

It seems to me this piece is specifically aimed at agitating a highly emotional fan base (as most supporters of fringe activities typically are) and generating buzz for a run of mill college publication.

Just sad all around. I always envisioned that journalistic integrity would be a primary goal of a major college’s newspaper but I’m obviously mistaken.

Congratulations.

Marshall | 2007-09-27 - 05:34:11 AM (CDT)
@Marshall. and @Reveille Writer

Funny thing is, nobody gives a damn about this little ’paper’, it’s not going to get any more readership for posting this aggravating article, all it’s achieved is flooding Jasons’ comments section and email inbox flooded with replies from insulted MMA fans.

Laz | 2007-09-27 - 07:30:12 AM (CDT)
i gotta be completely honest, im not an mma fan, but i disagree with this article, and the guy way up there that talked about mma being for women who love bar fights and men swinging their cocks around. he just said that because he more than likely has a tiny penis, so tiny that it makes him insecure enough for him to feel the need to bring the subject up, and he more than likely gets beat up or got beat up so bad that watching combat sports brings back painful memories. you dont like it? than turn the channel, because no one if forcing these guys to fight. for many it is a dream to fight under the bright lights, to showcase the talent they have been working on for years and years. i mean, shit i think baseball is such a boring sport, so i just change the channel instead of watching and crying about how bad it is. ive seen enough football players pat each other on the ass in those tight fucking shorts, but no one crys about the gay gestures they make on national tv. maybe ill write an article.....FOOTBALL, SPORT OR SECRET GAY FANTASY???????

derek | 2007-09-27 - 08:12:24 AM (CDT)
HOCKEY=DEATHMATCH WITH WEAPONS AND ARMOR

FUCK YOU | 2007-09-27 - 08:14:26 AM (CDT)
HORSEBACK RIDING=ANIMAL SLAVERY

FUCK ME | 2007-09-27 - 08:15:49 AM (CDT)
NEWSPAPER DELIVERY=CHILD LABOR

FUCK YOU TOO | 2007-09-27 - 08:16:41 AM (CDT)
When are people gonna learn that MMA is safer than Boxing. In boxing it’s a battle of who can get the most brain damage by the end of their career.

This article is so uneducated it’s not even funny. Georges st. Pierre as an example has more atheletism, technique and CLASS than you could imagine, as do many other fighters.

NeoShogun | 2007-09-27 - 08:16:41 AM (CDT)
BIG GAME FISHING=ANIMAL SLAUGHTER

FUCK ME TOO | 2007-09-27 - 08:17:58 AM (CDT)
BALLET= CHILD AND GAY PORN

FUCK EVERYONE | 2007-09-27 - 08:19:32 AM (CDT)
hey, atleast theres no mma fighters dressing up like women and having creepy sex parties.

derek | 2007-09-27 - 08:22:18 AM (CDT)
mayweather called out mma fighters, but hes the one scared to get in the octagon and get choked to sleep.

kz7 | 2007-09-27 - 08:26:35 AM (CDT)
What more needs to be said about Jason Andreasen?

He is a complete fool.

Ray from NY | 2007-09-27 - 11:44:23 AM (CDT)
I see Jason has left a reply on here that I have to respond to. Yes, MMA is still illegal in some states, but Marc Ratner who used to work for the NSAC now works for the UFC and is in the process of getting it legalized and sanctioned in all the states, and he has been success in doing so in many states already. Our champions dont compete in boxing because MMA is the sport they love because of all the options. Most of them have backgrounds in wrestling and martial arts, so why would they box where they cant use them? A lot of them wrestled in college and cant use those skills they picked up in boxing. Then you compare MMA to the Greeks and Romans? Are you serious? MMA started in 1993, and the rules were set in place not too many years after that. You can NOT compare what they do to what ancient Greeks and Romans did in any way. Then you bring up, hip hop, tattoos and female exploitation. Give me a break. Boxing has just as many fighters with tattoos that walk out to hip hop, if not more than MMA. Boxing uses ring girl, just like MMA. Major MMA organizations do not use female exploitation. A lot of boxers have the same story about coming up in the ghetto, prison time, ext. Some MMA fighters might have that background too, but Im sure if you look into it youll see the number in boxing is much greater. Im not saying that there are a lot of boxers that dont have class, but for you to say there are no fighters with class in MMA is completely ridiculous. A high number of fighters in the UFC have college educations, but choose MMA because they love the competition.

Ex-boxers more Vulnerable to Disease and Deterioration in Old Age
Ex-boxers are more vulnerable to natural aging of the brain and diseases of brain. They may be more likely to suffer diseases such as Alzheimers and Parkinsons disease. Boxers brains are smaller and surface grey matter is thinner. The ventricles within the brain enlarged because of the decrease in the brains white matter.

Heres a list of boxing deaths from pretty much the beginning. At the bottom of the page youll find fatalities from 1946-2006, putting your no boxers have died in the last 100 years crap to rest.
http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_b_0700.htm

Travis | 2007-09-27 - 01:30:11 PM (CDT)
The internet is a fantastic tool: it allows people to share freely their thoughts and opinions as well as a wealth of information. Unfortunately that freedom of information comes at the cost of allowing contributions from journalists (and that word is given its loosest definition) such as Jason Andreasen of www.tigerweekly.com. His latest article is devoid of evidence and overrun with ill-informed opinion guised as fact. It is entitled Mixed Martial Arts = Legalised Dog Fighting.

http://tigerweekly.com/article/09-26-2007/6563

It would appear that Mr Andreasens only real argument is one based on the notion that MMA fans are simply pandering to their primal yearning for blood and violence. He asserts that it is the same urge that causes us to watch dog or cock fighting. Where such a notion comes from is unclear, but it would appear that Mr Andreasen has taken a disliking to MMA and has jumped on the bandwagon of the uneducated and began his own tirade against our sport. Despite the rather rudimentary way in which he has formulated his arguments, it remains that an article such as this can be damaging when given too much credence.

Later, short-sighted Mr Andreasen goes on to argue that boxing may be distinguished from MMAs barbarism on the basis that its governed by Athletic Commissions such as that of Nevada. Little does he know that in fact MMA is also governed by The Nevada State Athletic Commission, the former Chief Commissioner of which is now a full-time employee of the worlds premiere MMA organisation. His role: to attain state-wide sanctioning and regulation. Admittedly, other countries may be falling behind, yet here in the UK we have the joint efforts of leading referee Grant Waterman and former Jersey State AC Commissioner Garry Shaw. Mr Andreasens comment that MMA runs from such regulation is simply erroneous. Regulation is sought by promotions and welcomed by fans.

Mr Andreasens evasion of sense and reason is further exacerbated by his hypocritical arguments. At the same time as differentiating and defending Pro-Wrestling, he chastises MMA for its troubles with steroid abuse. He also conveniently side-steps the suggestion that boxing (which has many deaths attributed to it) may be less safe than MMA (which has suffered no related deaths).

Mr Andreasen suggests that because Pro-Wrestling is staged that it cannot compare to the damage sustained by MMAs athletes. It would appear that he requires educating on this point also:
When an athlete engages in an MMA bout he is then subject to a lockout period- a period of time when he is not eligible to fight, determined by his health and state of injury. This allows for rest and rehabilitation. Wrestling on the other hand is very much a fulltime job. There are no seasons or off-peak times of year. Pro-Wrestlers are required to work day-in, day-out without rest or rehab. Its no wonder then that many wrestler have died relatively young.

In closing, Mr Andreasen states that we need not inform him of the intricacies of the sport as I know what I see. My response to that is simply, no Mr Andreasen, you havent got a clue.

-Peter Hugh Jones, staff writer for ironlife.com

Peter Hugh Jones | 2007-09-27 - 01:53:32 PM (CDT)
"Furthermore, greats like Muhammad Ali were graceful and cunning" - He’s not so graceful and cunning these days due to your beautiful sport.

Hypno Toad | 2007-09-27 - 03:35:10 PM (CDT)
Hey Jason, click this

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_a_0700.htm

and this

http://www.jssm.org/combat/1/18/v5combat-18.pdf

XYZman | 2007-09-27 - 04:45:50 PM (CDT)
Or just copy and paste them

XYZman | 2007-09-27 - 04:46:49 PM (CDT)
LOUL

LOUL | 2007-09-27 - 04:49:03 PM (CDT)
You’re a joke of a writer and I hope you get canned for this tripe you pass off as credible journalism.

Vincanni | 2007-09-27 - 06:17:46 PM (CDT)
I LIKE TURTLES!!!

Zombie Boy | 2007-09-27 - 06:47:46 PM (CDT)
Just because an article is an opinion piece does not mean that research is not required. Even a glance at Wikipedia could have informed you that Mixed Martial Arts is regulated by the state athletic commissions. I hope that your articles are usually better than this, as it appears to have involved less research than my articles for the school newspaper did in junior high.
Also, thank you to Stephen Phillips for taking the time to read the comments and respond on this page, but please ask your people to do a little more fact-checking in the future.

Tyler | 2007-09-27 - 07:11:58 PM (CDT)
5 Seconds on google.

Well Jason there goes your 1 football death theory.

"Five died in 2002 after on-field head injuries, according to the study released Friday by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Three of those five were in high school, one was in youth football and one in a semipro league.

-Source ESPN. Spend at least 45 seconds doing research next time.

Brit | 2007-09-27 - 07:23:32 PM (CDT)
Sad day for tiger weekly......know wonder I have never heard of this rag.

tiger weekly sucks | 2007-09-27 - 07:33:38 PM (CDT)
You’re an idiot. That is pretty much all there is to it...

Jon | 2007-09-27 - 07:57:07 PM (CDT)
First and last visit to TigerWeekly, it’s been fun.

MMAfan | 2007-09-27 - 08:01:49 PM (CDT)
Actually, what I don’t understand is the "dog" part of the headline. It’s legalised fighting, sure, but they are humans. Maybe you could change the headline to MMA = Legalized Human Fighting, so as not to cause confusion with any aforementioned dogs?

MMAfan | 2007-09-27 - 08:04:23 PM (CDT)
Wow, you are very uninformed.

Paul | 2007-09-27 - 08:23:02 PM (CDT)
the guy who wrote this article is a total homo

a canadian | 2007-09-27 - 11:13:42 PM (CDT)
Possibly the most ignorant article I have ever read in published print. As soon as I read this article, I wanted to email the writer to comment on what a complete fool he was and is. Terrible article, terrible writing...

Brian | 2007-09-27 - 12:10:45 AM (CDT)
http://www.combat-hooligans.com/2007/09/mixed-martial-arts-legalized-dog.html

Art | 2007-09-27 - 12:32:20 AM (CDT)
Jason, I must say that your lack of journalistic integrity saddens me. The first rule of journalism is that a responsible journalist must always check their facts so as not to misinform their audience. You clearly have failed to do so as evidenced by the many false claims in your article.

You claim that the UFC runs from sanctioning bodies that govern boxing when in fact they do not hold any events in North America that are not sanctioned by recognized athletic commissions such as the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

You claim that the fighters are steroid users which is factually incorrect in most cases as evidenced by the steroid testing results that are made public after every event.

You also claim that there are little to no rules involved which, again, is factually inaccurate.

See a pattern here Jason?

Basically, if I were grading you I would be forced to give you an F as this article was both misleading and uninformative and therefor had nothing of value to offer me or anyone else. Please double check you facts in the future and practice responsible journalism.

P.S. Your editor should also be ashamed that he/she allowed this drivel to be published. LSU obviously doesn’t value the integrity of their school paper.

Chris Grimes | 2007-09-27 - 01:06:10 AM (CDT)
I’ve been seeing a lot of people attacking the editor(s) of this paper. As a long-time journalist and recently appointed news editor of a major local publication, I would like to point out that it is not the executive editor’s job to check facts. While he might approve all articles before he published, no real editor in chief has the time or the resources to verify truths in any piece, especially an editorial. This was published under the pretense that it was the writer’s opinion.

What I’m saying is that it’s Jason Andreasen’s job as the writer to get his facts straight. He is the one at fault here because it is his opinion article. Had this been in anything BUT the opinion section, we would be able to question the editor and this paper’s integrity.

I used to go to LSU, and I’ve kept up with reading tiger weekly for a while. It’s not the editor’s style to advocate libel and under-researched drivel like this. But, as an editor it is his job to stand behind free speech. The writer has a right to his opinion, and no one else is responsible for his awful research but himself. The only reason an editor would step in would be if the article was hate speech against a race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Much like what happened with LSU’s other school paper The Daily Reveille, with their anti-homosexual column.

Just thought I would clear that up since I, too, am an editor and am familiar with the way things work in publishing opinion pieces.

Drew | 2007-09-27 - 01:29:18 AM (CDT)
This is either a deliberate attempt to get attention or he was in danger of missing his deadline and made some shit up without any research. Either way, it is an embarrassing editorial

Mick | 2007-09-27 - 01:35:34 AM (CDT)
Drew:

So you’re saying it’s OK to publish bald-faced lies and slander in a newspaper as long as it’s in the opinion section?

Shouldn’t the editor at least publish some kind of retraction? This whole affair disgusts and disappoints me.

Unbelievable | 2007-09-27 - 01:55:47 AM (CDT)
You have a cute little opinion here Jason. If any of your other opinions are as well thought out as this one, I hope you will do people the favor of keeping them to yourself.

Negligence Per Se | 2007-09-28 - 03:21:27 AM (CDT)
please check out the Blog area of this rag as Matthew Sigur is trying to defend the author of this "opinion piece". Somebody must have hurt Jasons feelings.

Knight Who Says "Ni" | 2007-09-28 - 10:23:08 AM (CDT)
Seriously, the worst article i have ever read in TW. Im graduating this semester so i guess that equates to about 4 years of reading TW.

I guess since you open your brilliant article by calling me a frat boy, i should clarify i am not nor have i ever been in a fraternity, or even resemble the style or swagger of one. However, i am a huge MMA fan, and your rant is filled with nonsense and lies. To try and point out some of the errors that are more obvious, the statement of MMA not being sanctioned by Athletic Commissions, MMA is sanctioned in most states today by their respective athletic commissions. Your comment about Joe Rogan being a comedian and talking about the gracefulness of Chuck Liddell beating someones face in, you reinforce the idea that he is a comedian and has no value or even a professional perspective on the sport, well this is false in the sense that Joe Rogan is a Brown Belt in Brazilian Jin Jitsu. I am sure if he was talking about the art and gracefulness of anything it was related to one of the many grapplers in the sport who go for submission tap outs rather then just the Brutal KO. Each his own though i guess, You mention Boxing and Ali, Did you know that Boxing and Even Football average more deaths then Mixed Martial Arts?

In the History of MMA, one unsanctioned event held outside of the US there has been one recorded death due to MMA(Ultimate Fighting). Not only is there a lower death rate, there is more ways to end a fight in an "honorable" fashion with being able to tap out, or say "uncle. This ability to end the fight is put in the fighters hands not the corners hands in Boxing (throwing in the towel) and this way of loosing a fight in MMA is not a cowardly thing to do and is not looked down upon if a fighter does happen to tap out. Another big difference between MMA and Boxing is that the gloves used in MMA are padded to protect the fighters hands more so then then opponents face, this makes fights end quicker, with results of quicker knockouts etc, and also makes the officiating of the sport much more aggressive as for saying when a fight is over. Boxing Gloves while designed to protect both the hands and the opponent seem to have a much worse effect allowing much more strikes to the head to happen in general and results in much more potential for damage to the brain. Also add to this that in MMA there are far fewer rounds for fights, and its not 15 rounds of just hey shake my brain inside my head. To go into much more detail on how ignorant and uninformed your article is would really take too long, i just couldnt sit by and not comment on the lies and misinformation that you posted on a sport that i happen to enjoy and see the art in it. It is clearly one of the most Dynamic and Evolving sports we have ever witnessed. If only i was token frat boy, maybe i could turn the clock back some and get involved with the sport. Instead i sit with my friends, and my Chihuahua who has great take down defense she has an insane sprawl when i try and shoot, and enjoy a great upcoming sport that is second to none. This is coming from a guy who has been in like two fights in his life, unless you count the bouts i have had with my little dog, then I am a jits god.

AK | 2007-09-28 - 11:02:57 AM (CDT)
Lol at anyone calling out white trash from the TigerWeekly, those in glass houses . . .

Johan Kleinensburg | 2007-09-28 - 12:53:41 PM (CDT)
#168, read the editor’s blog. it’s actually really really funny and true

Kurt | 2007-09-28 - 12:59:14 PM (CDT)
don’t you people have jobs?

seriously | 2007-09-28 - 02:39:25 PM (CDT)
Yes. But I can multitask like a mofo

Gnarfle the Garthok | 2007-09-28 - 03:24:32 PM (CDT)
UFC fighters are the guys that got dumped by their high school sweet hearts then decided to get the internet and some boxing gloves to vent their frustrations at people they don’t know.
There’s a reason those girls dumped you-- you’re fucking crazy and that little dick doesn’t work well as the other, sensitive guy’s one.
But good luck getting chicks while you’re masturbating to porn and writing comments on an website! I’m sure you’ll do great balancing masturbation and fighting.
Don’t they cancel each other out?

Get a fucking job. You’re only fighting because you think it’s an easy way to get to the top. Stop kidding yourself assholes!

Michael Gibbs | 2007-09-28 - 03:36:06 PM (CDT)
Michael Gibbs = Moronic Troll

Michael Gibbs’ Mommy | 2007-09-28 - 04:31:10 PM (CDT)
"Michael Gibbs", don’t you think that the comment you made about "writing comments on an website" and what you just typed out is ironic? It is, hypocrite. By the way, it’s "a website", not "an website".

Your "argument" has nothing to do with the topic, it’s just a bias rant based on your own insecurities. You’re the one typing out hateful, bigoted speech while others are trying to explain the inaccuracies of the article.

I also like how you made up an entire theory based on "getting women" and "little dicks". Do you think about those things often? The real question is, why do you relate those things to the discussion? Why anyone would come up with such an imaginary scenario is an insight into the person himself. You have exposed yourself through your insecurities for all to see. I imagine "Michael Gibbs" isn’t your real name either, and that too shows what a coward you are.

Kevin | 2007-09-28 - 04:55:24 PM (CDT)
Max Baer killed Frankie Campbell in the boxing ring in like 1930 or somethin. Peep that.

The Dewd | 2007-09-28 - 06:05:56 PM (CDT)
this idoit thinks that mixed martial arts=dog fighting?

MMA = mixed MARTIAL ARTS. it is santioned by athletic commission.

FU MR Andreasen | 2007-09-29 - 04:29:32 PM (CDT)
Kurt, i just now the read the blog the editor wrote on this site. it’s pretty hilarious.

55g | 2007-09-29 - 05:41:46 PM (CDT)
I can’t do much more than laugh at this and it dumb writer. Understand that it is increditably obvious you know next to nothing about MMA. One incredibility wrong statement was, "that the promotions run from Boxing is regulated by various entities like the Nevada State Athletic Commission; meanwhile, MMA organizations run from such regulation." All AFC events are governed buy the same commissions. Also, there are rules such as no biting, scratching, eye poking, or pulling at small joints such as fingers and toes. If you took the time to listen while you view, you might start to understand that those guys use more technique than boxers. Dog fighting? Are you kidding me. Dogs fight to death and the loser is often put to death. Big difference! You’re like a guy from another country that comes here and says American football is barbaric, all it is is guys running into each other. What joke of a read this was. and oh yeah I’m not a redneck, I’m a black business man in Chicago & no I’m not part of any foolish fight clubs.

Jay | 2007-09-29 - 05:52:01 PM (CDT)
few errors in my post above.
"it’s" bumb writer & All "UFC" events

Jay | 2007-09-29 - 05:57:04 PM (CDT)
isn’t it ironic that i see an mma advertisement on the right

mma fan | 2007-09-29 - 06:40:00 PM (CDT)
I think this is a new trend amongst wannabe writers. Bash MMA, as it will get you a lot of attention.........good job getting the attention super doof. Next time you try to write something and call it journalism, get your fucking facts straight.

White Trash Ninja | 2007-09-29 - 07:30:41 PM (CDT)
Perhaps the esteemed Mr. Andreasen should have read this article:

http://tigerweekly.com/article/09-19-2007/6485

instead of plotzing out his own crap article.

aardvarks | 2007-09-29 - 07:42:20 PM (CDT)
Jason Andreasen, I agree 100%.

You, sir are a wise, wise sage.

Ashida Kim | 2007-09-29 - 08:03:22 PM (CDT)
jason -
next semester, in comp II, you’ll learn to better shape an arguement.

dardis | 2007-09-30 - 11:52:36 AM (CDT)
well, i see everyone covered all the bases in deconstructing this ridiculous article--seriously jason, do some reaserch next time. but i do have one thing to add regarding your statement

What I see is a bunch of steroid-using guys beating each other up with little or no restriction

since the steroid using guys foolishness has been addressed, i will tackle the little or no restriction bit:

Fouls:

1. Butting with the head.
2. Eye gouging of any kind.
3. Biting.
4. Hair pulling.
5. Fish hooking.
6. Groin attacks of any kind.
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8. Small joint manipulation.
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules

solomon remus | 2007-09-30 - 07:51:00 PM (CDT)
My favorite part of this comment section is the plethora of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors by the people defending the column and calling everyone else stupid and rednecks.

Mr. Andreasen, what you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Jackass.

Fonzi | 2007-09-30 - 09:55:28 PM (CDT)
I have no problem with with anyone who does not enjoy the sport MMA. It can be a brutal sport, and its not everybodies cup of tea; however, I think it is important to view both sides of the argument. Its an opinion piece, sure, but unfortunately the many errors make it difficult for an educated individual to take your article as anything other than a fluff piece - written for the sole purpose of drawing attention to yourself.

Lee | 2007-09-30 - 11:14:58 PM (CDT)
I enjoy all these random people from New York and Canada reading the tiger weekly.

COW | 2007-10-01 - 05:46:09 AM (CDT)
Number of deaths in MMA = 0, number of deaths in boxing = so much it’s hard to count. Mr. Andreasen’s writing = pointless. Back up your claim with actual facts next time because your debate is like a boxer entering a octagon. You just got TAP OUT

dave | 2007-10-01 - 11:31:26 AM (CDT)
Where did you go Jason Andreasen? Basic Journalism I hope. You’ve wasted mommy and daddies money so far it seems.

Jason Andreasens’ wasted education | 2007-10-02 - 12:17:15 PM (CDT)
Please Define "Sport". I suspect the game of golf, ballroom dancing and ping-pong fit your definition more closely then MMA..

Rex | 2007-10-02 - 05:15:52 PM (CDT)
DO SOME RESEARCH!

Christian | 2007-10-02 - 10:28:28 PM (CDT)
Dear Mr Jason "I don"t know shit" Andreasen,
You have to a dumb as Michael VIck to even make that comparision. MMA is a lot safer than boxing in many aspects and more exciting as well. If you pulled your head out of your ass long enough you will see the difference between the two. Watch what really happens or even train or step in the ring although being the "Keyboard Warrior" you are I am more than postive that wouldn’t happen at all. Boxing and MMA are like comparing apple to oranges they are two different sports. MMA is the future of fighting, boxing will always be around for loosers like you to say why you think boxing is better, and why the WWE is better than the UFC (not). Lay off of the weed for a while, and think before you write. As the tree hugger you are things can’t be too bad, after all if this is the return your parents are getting for the money they spent on your education, they got screwed. Check out www.titoortiz.com and really read what these fans and fanatics are writting about in regards to the world of MMA. Do fucking homework fag boy, and do some real research before you write an article such as this piece of crap. So walking around the streets of Baton Rouge and at LSU think twice you asshole and having a nice fucking day.

HeadHunter | 2007-10-02 - 11:21:54 PM (CDT)
Where are your balls? F... sissy. Go to the ballet. MMA is pure. A true example of what men are and should be. It’s the response to the crap of sexual revolution and the sissification of men that came with it. Don’t make me wrong. I embrace women who now love their sex life, and I enjoy mine too, with them. But thank god there are some role models like Randy Couture, showing us men who we really are, i.e not like these f... gay metrosexual. Nothing against gay, only against their agenda and their endless promotion. Accepting sthg is not promoting it. Guys, let’s turn to these role models. These fighters are what we should strive to be. Real men, facing fear. Not castrated men, crying about our lost balls.

Michael | 2007-10-02 - 12:17:36 AM (CDT)
thank you, headhunter for discrediting every post in this section

you suck | 2007-10-02 - 01:50:52 AM (CDT)
Editor to Editor.....your a journalist trying to seek attention from a negative article about something you have NO CLUE about. So, rather than waste my time, I inserted a previous article I wrote earlier this year for people like you!

The Uprising of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA)

By: Angela Chustz-Parent

March 23, 2007

The enormous amount of publicity Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) has received lately is astonishing. When MMA started back in the early 90’s, it was seen a brutal sport because of its "no rule, no weight class, give it all you got"- aspect and reputation. The audience for this sport was at a bare minimum until new management took over and made MMA a more reputable talented contact sport.

MMA has been in the media more so in the past few months than ever before. Some of this media outbreak has been ridiculed by spectators and politicians nationwide, who have absolutely no clue of what this sport is all about. Some will argue that MMA is even a sport at all. These are the people who are against MMA and who will do anything not to have this sport sanctioned in their state or who bad mouth MMA like it is some kind of free-for-all backyard sport.

If you are a spectator of this sport and have negative outlooks of what this sport is all about, ask your self this Do players get injured in football? Soccer? Hockey? Rugby? Or any other full contact sport? Well, if you don’t know the answer, it’s YES. Just like football or even boxing, there are doctors, EMS, and referees nearby waiting to respond to any type of injuries. But what one may not realize about MMA is that fighters push themselves.

MMA fighters are modern day gladiators who will fight until they can’t anymore or sometimes until the referee pulls them off. In football, when a player gets broadsided and are lying on the field with a broken leg, they are out of the game. The difference in MMA fighters is that they have so much dedication, respect, and train so intensely for that next win, or that Championship belt, that they push themselves at times and allow for minor injuries to happen just for their own personal satisfaction of knowing that the next move they make with their opponent will be a win for them or even knowing in their minds that giving up or tapping out is not giving it all that they have.

These fighters should be treated with respect because they compete for a victory just like any other sport. It’s an individual goal of accomplishment that these men and women seek. It’s similar to the Olympics in that they compete for a Championship belt instead of the Gold, Bronze, or Silver. Each one of them has their own fighting skills and has experienced different levels of training to get them where they are professionally.

MMA fighters are modern day talented competitors who need respect. Why do people have problems with a few sports thrown into one? Take Boxing, Kickboxing, Wrestling, and Martial Arts and throw them in a cage, the result - Mixed Martial Arts.

Each one of those individual sports has received the respect it deserves. So, why can’t MMA? MMA is a respectful professional sport where dedicated mixed martial artists come together who respect each other, who train each other, and who compete with each other to become the number one fighter of the world. Well, it seems like people are starting to open their eyes to this fascinating sport.

Back to the recent media on MMA, this fascinating sport has received positive outlooks despite all the negativity uneducated politicians and spectators have given it. 60 minutes and other local and nationwide media outlets have acknowledged MMA as a rapidly growing sport with a reputation of the possibly exceeding football as being the number one sport in the nation. How can one not watch it? The simple fact of the matter is, MMA is rising without force to be the number one non-seasonal ultimate contact sport that sports fanatics nationwide and internationally, pay billions to see.

MMA is rising to the top with some road blocks to face, but dedicated and supportive fans will make this sport become what it has never been in no time. And, as one can imagine with any new idea or money-making sport, comes entrepreneurs and business minds scattering around trying to find out how to make a buck in the business.

There are entrepreneurs boosting with excitement to get a piece of the MMA action by competing in athletic apparel, promoting, MMA radio shows, MMA media internet sites, martial arts schools, and so much more. As we say in the south, "Get it while the gettin’ is good".

Respect the sport. Respect the fighters and Respect each other and MMA will be the number one sport in the nation.

LOUISIANA FIGHT CLUB | 2007-10-03 - 07:42:36 PM (CDT)
www.thelafightclub.com

GO TO PUNISHMENT AT THE PMAC OCTOBER 13TH AND SEE WHAT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SPORT!

LOUISIANA FIGHT CLUB | 2007-10-03 - 07:46:56 PM (CDT)
Comparing one of the best sports in the world to dog fighting? Mmmm k. Put down the crak pipe. Pull your head out of your ass and step into the ring with a trained disciplined fighter and see what happens. Two hits your face, then the ground. If you can’t see that MMA is a fierce sport and not just two guys beating the crap out of each other you are just ignorant!

JT | 2007-10-03 - 08:10:38 PM (CDT)
You my good sir, are a fuck-tard.

MMA | 2007-10-03 - 08:13:08 PM (CDT)
I just would like to see this idiot in the ring with a MMA fighter. Then he can tell us that these fighters are not as skilled as the guys in Halloween costumes ("pro-wrestlers").
As far as this dumb-asses assignment, it was obviously an assignment to create contraversy, because theres no way in hell he actually believes what he wrote in this article. If he does, he needs to go back to high school English class where they teach about RESEARCHING FACTS, and not writing your OPINION.

and they let him go to LSU? wow...admission requirements are low nowadays!

DUMB ass.

Smarter College Student Than This Dumb A** | 2007-10-03 - 08:28:02 PM (CDT)
JT he is ignorant...we have all just proved that!!

none ya | 2007-10-03 - 08:29:19 PM (CDT)
Like so many other Journalists and Commentators throughtout history, your words show your ignorance. One should fully educate his self on an issue before he opens his mouth, otherwise he eventually ends up with his foot in it. watch and see.

Chad-Extreme Fight Gear | 2007-10-03 - 08:33:04 PM (CDT)
Face it. On the world level, no athlete comes close to a professional boxer. Look at the condition Floyd Mayweather Jr. is in. He’s all natural. What UFC guy is like that without roids? Not a single one....

I’m a boxer and find it so hard to believe that in only ten years time, all these rats come out of the basement to yap about how great MMA is. Well, I think it sucks...I think it’s less risky for the athletes...and I think it’s an easier sport to ascend in, than compared to boxing, which is why plenty of people are in MMA to begin with.

Too weak for boxing.

The Great White Hype | 2007-10-03 - 10:04:11 PM (CDT)
Fascinating? Please. You musta missed Taylor vs Pavlik...

The Great White Hype | 2007-10-03 - 10:05:53 PM (CDT)
mma is a sport just the same as football, baseball, soccer, hockey even golf! Y would u even come to the world with this piece of garbage article? I would love to meet the greats as u spoke of...but get a life and leave the sports to the professionals to tell it how it is!

promise a punishment | 2007-10-03 - 12:53:08 AM (CDT)
::: I’m another angry white trash redneck:::

Boxing, MMA, Wresteling, all of these are testosterone driven sports. Much like football, hockey, rugby, polo, basketball, and several other sports. Maybe MMA is an "extreme" sport, but none the less it is a SPORT, dickhead. Backyard wrestling is technically a sport. Although someone elses morals or values might be less than your own, you cant take away the public opinion. Fighting has been well represented from all over the world, in fact its been a "sport" with huge audiences over-seas for much longer a period of time. Look at Japan, Taiwan, or even Brazil. These "sports" have been a part of their culture since before you or I were a thought in our great grandparents wombs. Maybe im being partial, but my history expands beyond the states into what we call the human race.
Generations upon generations have fought over their own posessions and their wants. (Not that it is even necessairy to mention women, who hasnt fought over one of them.) Although time has continued, does that mean we should relinquish our desires? If we change what we want, will anything ever fill that void? My answer to that is no. Not just a little no, but a FN NO! Give it an hour, a day, a year, or 30 years, your gonna think back and wonder "what if?" Chances are your gonna have a regret, especially never taking the opportunity to prove ones worth to oneself. Yes there are other ways of proving ones self-worth, but why not focus on that as an issue. Why dont you start a website to helping people get their confidence, self image, and motivational levels up without some monthly bullshit charge. MMA is a great therapy for those who dont like to talk about their emotions or feelings. Its also a great discipline when correctly taught. Apparently you could use some discipline yourself, unjustly accusing these athletes of steroid use. I walk around weighing 160 pounds, i have and will compete at 145. Please give me a steroid check. I know hundreds of fighters who know that steroids are harmful to your health, and can be detrimental to a fighters body let alone their performance. Look into any athletic competition, there will always be those who use and those who dont. Athletes try to get that edge no matter if its in boxing, MMA, or football. Did anyone mention José Canseco. He was a baseball player for those of you who deny their masculine, testosterone driven sports. Did anyone call him to weak for baseball, or boxing??? I say he was an over-achiever who got what he wanted. And it cost him future as well as his career, not to mention public oppinion.
I think the biggest problem in our society is the closed-mindedness and the amount of prejudging that occurs daily. In one of my classes we reference people like Jason Andreasen as "CONTAMINATED PEOPLE." Id bet he notices and harps on anything negative presented to him. Or perhaps hes trying to make up for his lack of testosterone levels by writing some crap he knew would get a response. A bit lonely there buddy? Maybe your other articles keep getting read over... I know writers all expirment in crystal meth, cocaine, and any amphetamine they can get their crusted paws ahold of right. Forget about writers block right, Where theres a fix, theres a way!.... Fact or Fiction?

Let every man and woman make up their own mind without needless or unproven slander. Its pathetic how someone feels their "common sense" is above anyone elses "common sense."

VERDICT #1: Jason Andreasen is a shmuck, and I believe he needs to experience a little MMA for himself. Jason, check out GLADIATORS ACADEMY in Baton Rouge, your pretty local to that gym. They should be able to answer any questions you have, or add input to your narrow perception.
VERDICT #2: MMA is a sport. -
Why do people want to play or even tempt to prevoke trained fighters??? Dont they see the imminent danger in it? *****Watch out, a head kick**** .... Who would you go to in order to learn how to defend againts it? ... Oh yeah, go consult with your librarians, or internet references... Maybe your momma... Or just keep plenty of bandaids and antibiotic ointment in your pocket.
Perhaps you could make this spherical shield appear around you by clicking your heals together three times... Im sure it would stop Osama and his will to.
Or perhaps you see the possibility of danger and want to take preventitive measures to ensure your own safety. Just be careful when joining a gym. I hear they automatically give you steroids when you walk in the door....

FIGHTERS: I know i was one until i had a neck injury. Guess what, i miss fighting, just the respect and the benefits training bestowed on me. Ive had a long list of medical problems, but you know what, I WANT TO RETURN TO THE RING. And when i do, im going to keep a copy of this article Jason wrote, just to inspire me to think of each and every opponent as this weasle.
And i hope he has a long career in "sports."

Eric Meyer | 2007-10-04 - 02:02:46 AM (CDT)
OK first off I’m 2-0 as a professional fighter. I haev never toucehd steroids, nor would I. Ands your comment about MMA running from rules? That is the very reason we now have to have AIDS, Hep a&b, and numerous other tests. See you have the wrong idea, MMA is the utopia of athletics. I train two hours a day the whole time regulating what I eat, and what I put into my body. I actually stopped smoking and drinking when I started fighting. I’m a father of a three year old daughter and I show her the sports aspect of it. She’s been to my fights numerous times and even my little girl can tell how much respect all the fighters have for each other.
See your comments on boxing being a different animal are true. Boxing is a tiny cuddly puppy, while MMA is a massive fully grown hound. MMa is the evolution of martial arts. I know full well that anything I post here will simply be misread and turned against me, but I’m voicing my opinion here. Most fighters are family men who do this because they love the adrenaline rush, or simply because this is the highest caliber of competition in the world. Maybe you should actually meet some real fighters and see what they put into training before you judge. But hey what do I know, I’m just some guy who needs to get my testosterone out.

Drew Reed | 2007-10-04 - 03:32:01 AM (CDT)
To the one and only JASON"I need a fucking life"ANDREASEN!!! You need to do some research before doing all you babbling CRAP! Get a life and find out the the way MMA really is. Get in the training center or the ring and see what you have. Oh wait,I forgot its too WHITE TRASH for you. And then you even comment on your own article. Thats low,really low! I hope someone finds you and smacks the shit out of you and puts you to sleep!!!

PLUMS | 2007-10-04 - 05:25:43 AM (CDT)
great white whatever wrote......
"Face it. On the world level, no athlete comes close to a professional boxer. Look at the condition Floyd Mayweather Jr. is in. Hes all natural. What UFC guy is like that without roids? Not a single one...."

Two words - Randy Couture - end of story.

BTW: do you honestly want people to believe that roids are not prevelant in boxing??? You are dreaming.
Also, too weak for boxing? Okay tough guy, you’re a boxer, go give it a try. Just keep your bucket handy.

35+ years of training and fighting | 2007-10-04 - 10:47:02 AM (CDT)
From NPR.....
" Olympic champion sprinter Marion Jones has admitted using steroids in preparation for the 2000 Sydney Games and plans to plead guilty on Friday to lying about her drug use.
Jones made the admission in a letter she sent to close family and friends."

Yep. It’s just those neanderthal, red-neck MMA guys who are using "roids".
Yeah, nobody else does’em like them there guys do.

Now we can add a * to her records as well as Barry Bonds baseball.

Jason Andreasen’s Frustrated Manhood | 2007-10-05 - 01:02:05 PM (CDT)
.....here’s another (pay attention great white hype)

"Report: Shane Mosley allegedly used BALCO drugs before 2003 fight against De La Hoya

September 28, 2007

Boxer Shane Mosley is accused of using BALCO designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream" as part of a doping regimen before a 2003 fight against Oscar De La Hoya, SI.com reported Friday.

Citing multiple unidentified sources who attended an international anti-doping conference in Colorado Springs, Colo., last November, SI.com reported that lead BALCO investigator Jeff Novitzky alleged that Mosley began using those two drugs, as well as EPO, two months before the light middleweight championship fight won by Mosley."

That’s gotta hurt!

Jason Andreasen�s missing intellect | 2007-10-05 - 02:34:39 PM (CDT)
Hi! I’m not going to be as immature as others who left their remarks on your article and call you names or put you down. However, I do not agree with a single word you said. First of all, cock and dog fights are in no way, shape, form or fashion anything at all like MMA fights. Show me a rooster or a dog who’s ever signed a consent form. Please show me ANY animal that can be taught, and is capable of learning and using, the skills required for MMA. Can you teach a pitbull how to reverse a hold? Can you teach a rooster to duck and counter a strike? No, you cannot. That is where the differences lie. MMA is an art. These men and women train hard everyday to get in there and do what they do. They apply hardwork, dedication and passion to this sport. I applaud and admire them all.

I do not feel the need to repeat the many people who pointed out the other obvious flaws in your article. That has already been done rather nicely.

Please consider doing some research on a subject before you put ink to paper (or fingers to keys) again. Writing on a subject you are ignorant about is never a good idea.

Laure laureduckworth@gmail.com | 2007-10-07 - 03:35:03 PM (CDT)
I’m speechless as to how uninformed the person who wrote this is.

agente | 2007-10-07 - 10:24:51 PM (CDT)
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MMA competition has evolved ancient arts more in the last 15 years they the past 400 years. It’s exciting to see people wanting to share their knowledge of combat, rather than hoard it like the old days.

Before you pass judgment on these individuals, you should try spending some time around one of them. As far as beating people eachother silly...obviously you didn’t watch the boxing matches between Auturo Gatti and Mickey Ward.

The world needs passive (which is the nicest term I can use for it) people such as yourself, but don’t judge others that aren’t afraid to explore their physical capabilities.

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Jason Andreasen’s elevated THC levels | 2007-10-24 - 04:36:40 PM (CDT)
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lee | 2008-05-26 - 01:31:07 PM (CDT)
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Boxing is a sport because of the men outside of the ring say so? Did I read that correctly? because it is due to "various entities" that boxing is a REAL SPORT? LOL SILLY ME!, I was under the impression that Boxing was a sport due to durabilty, athleticism, and technique. MMA differs how?
Another point I would like to add to this, if MMA is only an arena where fighters can let their humanistic instincts take over and "beat the crap out of the other guy" WTF bother with rules? Maybe because like any other SPORT you have to rely on ability and technique? Not to be mean or anything, but do your parents a favor, sign up at a local community college instead of them having to pay your way through a costly school so that you can jack off all semester writing mindless babble and obviously doing zero research for your article. Maybe even consider NOT taking up journalism as your major?
Anyway, thanks for the laugh, I always get a chuckle out of uninformed bafoons where they themselves would never have the nutsack to step in the cage. TOTAL VAGINAS!

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Yep, its pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that the violence of MMA is in the long run going to be detrimental to our society particularly children. Its called DESENSITISATION to violence people and its coming to a street corner near you. Any who disputes that needs their head examined - its just sad there are so many of you.

kidsfirst | 2008-09-29 - 01:37:35 PM (CDT)
kidsfirst, if you had half a brain you would do some research on what youre angry at instead of making generalizations. Is that what you teach your kids, kids first? Do you teach them to make generalizations? To live life based on stereotypes? When was the last time you were put into a heel hook while waiting for a bus? Just please stop hiding your hate for the world, for things that you dont understand behind wanting to help children. Not too long ago people didnt want to integrate schools because they were worried about black children going to school with their children. Did those people trying to stop integration know anything about black people or did they just see the color of their skin and make their own generalizations about people they knew nothing about? Did they go on their own and meet some black people to see what they were all about? NO THEY DIDNT. They sat at home, saw something different and decided, this isnt something im used to, it scares me so im going to hate it. Sound familiar?

educate yourself | 2008-10-09 - 03:32:16 PM (CDT)
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stu | 2008-10-14 - 08:55:08 PM (CDT)
This guy should officially change his name to Stephen Glass, I have seen so many uninformed claims on one screen since the last time I watched Bill O Reilly. Reading that was like watching a youtube video about the Holocaust being fake.

But I am not going to talk about the "misconceptions" of this piece of sh*t you call an article since everyone else has. One thing I will talk about is Joe Rogan. Yes Joe is a comedian (yes a comedian) and is a promoter of MMA. He is also a brown belt in Brazilian Jui Jitsu and a black belt inTae Quan Do. Which makes him better suited to commentate than you are to write columns.

Now lets hear about Don King, a promoter of the so called non-blood sport of boxing. Hes a former bookie, ruined the sport of boxing (in my opinion), screwed over Mike Tyson, and oh yeah hes a F***ING MURDERER. Also why is boxing more civilized than MMA? Having a fight between to men that encompasses all aspects of fighting is uncivil, but two guys clubbing each other with their fists until one stays down or until the referee finally jumps in at the 11th round even though the fighter probably suffered several concussions before then is civil?

Now Im not saying MMA is safe, but it is sure as hell safer than boxing. But for the sake of TRUTH, there has been one death in MMA. The fighters name was Sam Vasquez and he died of a seizure in a hospital two weeks after he had received a flurry of punches from his opponent at the Toyota center in Houston but there has been and estimated 751 deaths in the U.S since it\s founding due to the sport of boxing according to "death under the spotlight" by Manuel Vasquez. (see I do research, unlike you)

But I am preaching to the choir, since the guy who wrote this probably hasnt looked at this article since he pulled out of thin air.

R.I.P Evan Tanner
R.I.P Sam Vasquez

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